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jerem0621

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Kevin O. wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

OP has a 08 Ram 1500, was looking at getting a TT or TH that would have overloaded his truck so he is upset with his 1/2 ton.

OPs truck is a very capable tow vehicle.......within it's ratings namely payload

Maybe when he calms down he will realize it.

But if OP wants bigger TT/TH...will need to get rid of the grocery getter and go bigger truck
That's only if he stays with Dodge. If he had a Ford 1/2 ton with the Max tow and HD payload pkg then he would probably be a "happy camper".. With most of the Ram 1500's having such a low payload# all there good for is getting the groceries. .


If Ram calculated payload like Ford Does on the Max Tow F150 then the playing field would be even. Fact of the matter is that Ford calculates payload at almost 100% of the axle ratings on the Max Tow package. Ram on the other hand has the GVWR at 800-1000 lbs under the sum of the Axle Ratings.

I think the Max tow package gets you Towing mirrors , heavy duty bumper, and 3.73 axles. Yet, the payload increases substantially. It actually doesn't, ford just takes excess from the axle ratings and adds it to the payload.

My guess is that Ford feel comfortable doing this because if you are asking for max tow you are probably a little more educated on towing (because you know to ask for this) and payload. But that is just a hypothesis.

Ram is every bit as capable as the F150....just the stickers on the sides are a little different.

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navy80to04 wrote:

1/2 ton and x-lite 5er or 1 ton and what ever size you want. Cant see getting a 3/4 ton truck.


This is why I got a 3/4 ton. I don't need a 1 ton and the only 1/2 ton capable of towing my 5'er is the F150 HD. But I wanted the 8' bed and the only 8' bed available in the F150 HD is the extended cab version with the funny rear doors. I had those on other trucks and prefer the crew cab style better. So to get a CC LB I needed to go 3/4 ton.

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Gebrown wrote:

So whats the point in 1/2 ton trucks? They can't haul much, are they the grocery getters of the truck world?


I pull the trailer in my sig with my grocery getter. It's a great grocery getter too; holds a lot of groceries!


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My old F150HD would haul 2100 lb of groceries and they'd still be in the bags when I got home. Handled the 5th just as well, too.


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jerem0621 wrote:

Kevin O. wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

OP has a 08 Ram 1500, was looking at getting a TT or TH that would have overloaded his truck so he is upset with his 1/2 ton.

OPs truck is a very capable tow vehicle.......within it's ratings namely payload

Maybe when he calms down he will realize it.

But if OP wants bigger TT/TH...will need to get rid of the grocery getter and go bigger truck
That's only if he stays with Dodge. If he had a Ford 1/2 ton with the Max tow and HD payload pkg then he would probably be a "happy camper".. With most of the Ram 1500's having such a low payload# all there good for is getting the groceries. .


If Ram calculated payload like Ford Does on the Max Tow F150 then the playing field would be even. Fact of the matter is that Ford calculates payload at almost 100% of the axle ratings on the Max Tow package. Ram on the other hand has the GVWR at 800-1000 lbs under the sum of the Axle Ratings.

I think the Max tow package gets you Towing mirrors , heavy duty bumper, and 3.73 axles. Yet, the payload increases substantially. It actually doesn't, ford just takes excess from the axle ratings and adds it to the payload.

My guess is that Ford feel comfortable doing this because if you are asking for max tow you are probably a little more educated on towing (because you know to ask for this) and payload. But that is just a hypothesis.

Ram is every bit as capable as the F150....just the stickers on the sides are a little different.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
I've noticed that too and wondered.


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Here is what I haul with my 1/2 ton:

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IndyCamp wrote:

Here is what I haul with my 1/2 ton:

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Nice looking stuff!!! Three separate trips?

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jerem0621 wrote:

Kevin O. wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

OP has a 08 Ram 1500, was looking at getting a TT or TH that would have overloaded his truck so he is upset with his 1/2 ton.

OPs truck is a very capable tow vehicle.......within it's ratings namely payload

Maybe when he calms down he will realize it.

But if OP wants bigger TT/TH...will need to get rid of the grocery getter and go bigger truck
That's only if he stays with Dodge. If he had a Ford 1/2 ton with the Max tow and HD payload pkg then he would probably be a "happy camper".. With most of the Ram 1500's having such a low payload# all there good for is getting the groceries. .


If Ram calculated payload like Ford Does on the Max Tow F150 then the playing field would be even. Fact of the matter is that Ford calculates payload at almost 100% of the axle ratings on the Max Tow package. Ram on the other hand has the GVWR at 800-1000 lbs under the sum of the Axle Ratings.

I think the Max tow package gets you Towing mirrors , heavy duty bumper, and 3.73 axles. Yet, the payload increases substantially. It actually doesn't, ford just takes excess from the axle ratings and adds it to the payload.

My guess is that Ford feel comfortable doing this because if you are asking for max tow you are probably a little more educated on towing (because you know to ask for this) and payload. But that is just a hypothesis.

Ram is every bit as capable as the F150....just the stickers on the sides are a little different.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
I have to disagree. . There is no Ram 1500 that is close to being every bit as capable as a F150 with the Max tow and HD payload pkg. At least not yet. ..


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Kevin O. wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

Kevin O. wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:

OP has a 08 Ram 1500, was looking at getting a TT or TH that would have overloaded his truck so he is upset with his 1/2 ton.

OPs truck is a very capable tow vehicle.......within it's ratings namely payload

Maybe when he calms down he will realize it.

But if OP wants bigger TT/TH...will need to get rid of the grocery getter and go bigger truck
That's only if he stays with Dodge. If he had a Ford 1/2 ton with the Max tow and HD payload pkg then he would probably be a "happy camper".. With most of the Ram 1500's having such a low payload# all there good for is getting the groceries. .


If Ram calculated payload like Ford Does on the Max Tow F150 then the playing field would be even. Fact of the matter is that Ford calculates payload at almost 100% of the axle ratings on the Max Tow package. Ram on the other hand has the GVWR at 800-1000 lbs under the sum of the Axle Ratings.

I think the Max tow package gets you Towing mirrors , heavy duty bumper, and 3.73 axles. Yet, the payload increases substantially. It actually doesn't, ford just takes excess from the axle ratings and adds it to the payload.

My guess is that Ford feel comfortable doing this because if you are asking for max tow you are probably a little more educated on towing (because you know to ask for this) and payload. But that is just a hypothesis.

Ram is every bit as capable as the F150....just the stickers on the sides are a little different.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
I have to disagree. . There is no Ram 1500 that is close to being every bit as capable as a F150 with the Max tow and HD payload pkg. At least not yet. ..


I 100% agree with you. If you re-read my post I never mention the HD payload package. I was very specific to only mention the Max Tow package. The HD F150 is a light duty 3/4 ton truck.

Re-reading the person I quoted, they did mention the HD payload package which I missed.

I haven't personally looked at a HD F150 to review the axle ratings vs the GVWR.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

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IndyCamp wrote:

Here is what I haul with my 1/2 ton:




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