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Hannibal

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

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Hannibal wrote:

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I have only had mine a few months. I always do the pull test but for added insurance have one of these. Lots cheaper than a tailgate and new sides for your truck bed.

http://www.5thwheellatchkit.com/


Look at the bottom pics on the site listed. It is a B&W hitch. If you have their product you would have to get your face right up there to install the bar with this product. So if all you did instead is LOOK at the jaws to see they are wrapped around the kingpin and the hitch and kingpin plates are touching and the hitch handle is closed and locked it can't come un hitched.

Put the bar in place is just another step just like doing a visual.

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Same is true with the Reese two jaw hitch.



He fails to realize, that all hitches require these same steps. the two are touching, the jaw is closed ,and the handle is locked. Good grief there is nothing else, unfortunately some do not do all the correct things resulting in a dropped fifth wheel.


Just because the jaws are closed doesn't mean that it's locked. On the Pullrite the jaw can close around the visible part of the pin and it still might not be locked. Furthermore, I can visually see that my added latch kit is in fact latched- no ifs, ands or buts.


I understand your system and I may do the same if I had a SB truck.

I look at the jaws closed around the kingpin and then lock the handle closed. It can't come undone at that point with the hitch I pictured above.


Neither can the Reese. I do it every time.


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This is why I like my B&W turnoverball and Goosebox. There is no doubt when that socket sits down over that 2 5/16" ball, and the lock lever snaps. There are several other reasons I like it, but this is one of the main ones.

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How did you get the locks through the pins. Mine only has holes large enough for carter pins. The locking lever has a hole larger enough for a lock.

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We had a Pullrite for 11 years and never had a problem with it. We now have a B&W hitch with the puck system in our new Dodge dually. We always do a pull test, we both visually check, and we do a light check. Safety is a priority for us and none of this takes more than a minute to accomplish.


I assume your RAM is newer than the 12 listed in your sig. 13 and newer RAM's have the puck system if ordered that way. Great option!

Your choice to do a pull test if you want but after doing your visual test and all looks correct no way can it unhitch. Of course you can if you so choose!

Is this what your hitch looks like?

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I have the same setup mostly because of the hitches available for the new Ram factory setup. I have mine locked to bed but never thought about locks in pins and on locking handle...probably a good idea!


I think the locks are a good idea, some on here will tell you what a waste they are but hey do what works for you! Enjoy the Truck and hitch.



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nineback,

I drilled the holes out and eased the hole edges with a countersink. I transferred those same pins to my new Companion shown in the pic above you posted.

I believe I drilled the holes to a larger size to fit the larger two padlocks that attach to the puck locks.

Yes I have been accused of being a lock-a-holic!


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I have a Pullrite and I have never had any issues with dropping the 5er. Been towing with it since 2002.

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Never had a problem. Keep the king pin a little lower than the hitch plate and let it ride up an inch or two. The release arm goes click and slams in. DONE... If it doesn't, you are not hitched prorperly. Adjust height of 5er, lower is better. Always do the pull test. simple insurance...

* This post was edited 09/08/15 09:34pm by COnative *


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What I can't understand is why so many are dead set against doing a pull test, or a tug-test as it's referred to in the trucking industry. It's cheap insurance...yet costs nothing. I'm glad you guys don't drive tractor-trailer with that carefree attitude.


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My last hitch was a Pullrite Super 5th, but since they didn't see it necessary to make mounting kits for newer trucks using older hitches, I went with a Demco Recon this time, and love it more. But I can't see how it could ever drop a trailer the way it's designed. It's idiot-proof. You're far more likely to drop with a split-jaw type, which still amazes me anyone still uses this design.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

johndeerefarmer wrote:

I have only had mine a few months. I always do the pull test but for added insurance have one of these. Lots cheaper than a tailgate and new sides for your truck bed.

http://www.5thwheellatchkit.com/



Look at the bottom pics on the site listed. It is a B&W hitch. If you have their product you would have to get your face right up there to install the bar with this product. So if all you did instead is LOOK at the jaws to see they are wrapped around the kingpin and the hitch and kingpin plates are touching and the hitch handle is closed and locked it can't come un hitched.

Put the bar in place is just another step just like doing a visual.

[image][image]


JIMMY034

See the pics I posted 4 years ago. Same thing today, B&W hitch is simply hitched and no need to do more than a "VISUAL" test. Handle closed and locked with jaws around kingpin = GOLDEN.

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Don't think I've ever seen a thread raised from the dead after FOUR YEARS!!

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