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Posted: 08/27/18 07:30am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

taken wrote:

There have been a few threads about this issue on FTE. I think mine might have been the first.

Cold Side Tube Thread



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A big thank you to you and the others who forged the way for many to hopefully avoid the pipe blowout issue. I don't tow nearly as heavy as many of you but am towing mountain grades all the time when towing my fairly heavy TT with 850lbs ATV in the bed. Just thought gong with an aftermarket pipe was good insurance even though it took me a year to get around to getting it installed.


Quick Cliff's Notes on an aftermarket install from those FTE threads:

  • Small screwdriver to pop the clip up.
  • If your kit didn't come with the o-ring, you'll need to reuse it from the OEM pipe.
  • Do not dry fit the aftermarket pipe expecting to install it that way. Instead, start at both sides installing and meet in the middle with the aluminum 90 degree pipe.
  • Use Windex to help fit the pipes together when installing, makes a huge difference.
  • If you need to disassemble a clamp to get it on there after the pipe section was installed, you can use something like channel locks to hold it together while you get the spring, washer and nut on.
  • When installing the sensor, make sure the retaining tab is situated correctly so when you rotate the sensor 90 degrees, the tab goes over the ramp and then settles in, locked in place.
  • Give yourself up to two hours to complete the job however, easy to complete in an hour or just over.


* This post was edited 08/27/18 07:37am by RedRocket204 *


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Turbo hose clamps are to be tightened as part of your maintenance no matter the brand.

As far as being in KOMIFORNIA, simply have the desired part mailed to someone outside that State and mail to you and install it. Very unlikely anyone is going to notice it during an inspection.


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There is no upper clamp on the Ford 6.7 OE hose where the failure happens. It's a slip collar with a snap ring.


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KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING

Maybe this has been brought up before, I re-read the beginning of this thread and didn't see it mentioned.

OK I guess I'm going to order one of these. BUT buyer beware! The H&S kit deletes the air intake valve and requires the use of an aftermarket tuner to compensate for that. Apparently the AFE kit uses the OEM connectors and maintains the valve.

I've searched around and found a couple of other brands but except for the AFE they all seem to delete that valve. So read the fine print before buying.


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agesilaus wrote:

KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING

Maybe this has been brought up before, I re-read the beginning of this thread and didn't see it mentioned.

OK I guess I'm going to order one of these. BUT buyer beware! The H&S kit deletes the air intake valve and requires the use of an aftermarket tuner to compensate for that. Apparently the AFE kit uses the OEM connectors and maintains the valve.

I've searched around and found a couple of other brands but except for the AFE they all seem to delete that valve. So read the fine print before buying.


No, that's not the H&S kit we are talking about in this thread. The H&S kit that that is being referred to here is a direct OE replacement that doesn't delete the throttle body and requires no tuning. There is a version that deletes the throttle body and requires tuning but I don't know anyone running one or see the advantage.

Here's a link to the H&S page with all their different CAC kits. You will find the stock replacement style in two styles for 11-16 and one for 17+ trucks. None require tuning. H&S CAC Tubes

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Post a link to that H&S kit please because the link in the first post of this thread has this in it:

"Note: This product MUST be used in conjunction with a tuning device that allows for removal of the throttle body and electronics, otherwise you WILL have a check engine light."

I searched the H&S site and found their OEM kit which is just a silicone tube with and adapter. I'd rather buy the AFM kit which is stainless steel than spend $255 for a rubber tube. Why should we assume that would be any more enduring than the OEM tubing?

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agesilaus wrote:

The H&S kit deletes the air intake valve and requires the use of an aftermarket tuner to compensate for that.


Are you certain you are looking at the correct H&S Cold Side kit? H & S -
11-16 Ford 6.7 Powerstroke Abs........ute Performance Stock Cold Side Pipe Kit


The linked Cold Side kit for the 11-16 6.7L Powerstroke says no tuning required.

The Rudy's kit I put on only replaces the actual tubing, reuses the sensor, o-ring and clip. No tuning required on that kit. Rudy's Diesel - Cold Side Intercooler Pi........11-2016 Ford 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel 6.7


EDIT: I see taken was quicker to respond with same info.

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agesilaus wrote:

Post a link to that H&S kit please because the link in the first post of this thread has this in it:

"Note: This product MUST be used in conjunction with a tuning device that allows for removal of the throttle body and electronics, otherwise you WILL have a check engine light."

I searched the H&S site and found their OEM kit which is just a silicone tube with and adapter. I'd rather buy the AFM kit which is stainless steel than spend $255 for a rubber tube. Why should we assume that would be any more enduring than the OEM tubing?


A couple things. It's not a rubber tube like the OE one. It's silicone. Secondly, it's not the tube that fails. It's the plastic slip collar that goes over the intake. On the H&S, that collar is billet aluminum.

Below are all OE style that don't delete the throttle body or require tuning. The older style kit for the 11-16 requires the PS res to be moved with a new bracket and is a multi section kit like the AFE. The new style is just like the 17+ kits.

11-16 Older Style Kit

11-16 New Style Kit

2017+ Kit

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RedRocket204 wrote:

agesilaus wrote:

The H&S kit deletes the air intake valve and requires the use of an aftermarket tuner to compensate for that.


Are you certain you are looking at the correct H&S Cold Side kit? H & S -
11-16 Ford 6.7 Powerstroke Abs........ute Performance Stock Cold Side Pipe Kit


The linked Cold Side kit for the 11-16 6.7L Powerstroke says no tuning required.


OK the Rudy's kit is out of stock indefinitely. I was looking at the H&S kit link in the first post of this series. But I've found the ones you are referring too now. The silicone hose kit is also out of stock. Neither the H&S nor the AFM kits seem like the simple 10 minute swap out people have described here, reading the instructions shows a somewhat complex evolution including relocation of the PS fluid reservoir.


The Rudy's kit I put on only replaces the actual tubing, reuses the sensor, o-ring and clip. No tuning required on that kit. Rudy's Diesel - Cold Side Intercooler Pi........11-2016 Ford 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel 6.7


EDIT: I see taken was quicker to respond with same info.


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All 4 have a no tuning required kit. Don't forget too, H&S isn't the only one that sells H&S kits. So, just because they are out of stock doesn't mean all their vendors are. I bought my H&S kit from Rudy's and used a coupon code to save another 5 percent and got free shipping too. Coupon code is PSN. If you have an 11-16 truck, I'd get the H&S silicone version from whomever has it in stock. It's a 10 minutes TOPS install.

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