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PastorCharlie

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Posted: 09/12/20 11:09am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So thus far the structure and any added weight by occupants will sit on 24 horizonal screws spanning 24 feet?

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PastorCharlie wrote:

So thus far the structure and any added weight by occupants will sit on 24 horizonal screws spanning 24 feet?




Well, when you put it that way, it sounds horrible! Lol.

This is just the beginning. I am not done supporting it yet. I wanted to get things in place all around the rv, and then finish my support structure.

Actually, I am glad you brought that up. That gives me an idea for a little test, on the strength of Kreg screws. May be a couple of days til done though.

Putting things into perspective ..... (drum roll please)!

Let's say we have 24 screws, and between the lumber and a person up there, lets say we have 600 lbs. 600 / 24 = 25 lbs per screw for a shear strength.

Since that weight won't be spread out over all 24 screws, if I am in the middle of the 8 footer or the 16 footer, we would have 16 screws. 600 / 16 = 37.5 lbs per screw for shear strength.

If we put all 600 lbs directly on top of 2 of the 2 x's, now we have 8 screws. 600 / 8 = 75 lbs per screw.

For shear strength, that doesn't sound all that excessive.

According to Rockler's website, shear strength has been tested on pocket hole joints - " Independent testing found that a pocket screw joint failed at 707 pounds when subjected to a shear load". That's from their web site, HERE.

So, with that in mind, I will test this within a few days, (I hope), and post the results.

Thanks for bringing that up.


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Posted: 09/12/20 09:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

More work from today. Getting the passenger side and rear scaffolding in place.



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Yes, before someone asks, I cannot get in the door with the scaffold there. I do have access through the large LR windows though. Actually had to use that feature already. Lol.

Since I am out of time tonight, I can't post some of the other pics I took today, so I'll try to get them up tomorrow.

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Looks to me a brace like an X could be used in a few areas. chevman


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^^^ Uh...yeah. Maybe a few more legs too, but thats just me.,


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where are the osha approved safety rails and approved steps? don't forget all the bright yellow and orange paint,gotta dazzle the neighbors

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larry barnhart wrote:

Looks to me a brace like an X could be used in a few areas. chevman



I agree. In progress.

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Bruce Brown wrote:

^^^ Uh...yeah. Maybe a few more legs too, but thats just me.,




Yup. Plan on making it a little stiffer this week before use.

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donkeydew wrote:

where are the osha approved safety rails and approved steps? don't forget all the bright yellow and orange paint,gotta dazzle the neighbors




Pretty sure I've already got the neighbors "dazzled". Lol.

Railings coming. Probably no yellow nor orange paint.

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When you work by yourself, it seems like about 6 hands would be really helpful. However, since we only have 2, sometimes, a work around in necessary.

In this photo, I had the scaffolding at the rear, so I added an extension to the rear scaffold - red arrow - set the first truss in place, and added a couple of screws to keep it all in place - yellow arrow.

Green arrows points to the next truss ready to go up, with the leg already attached.



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