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Toyhaulernoob

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Posted: 12/30/17 09:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What does DOT and insurance go by? Guessing both.... can't pick 1 or the other correct?

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Posted: 12/31/17 06:20am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

DOT does not care since you not towing commercially. Insurance? Ask your agent.


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You have a capable truck, but a class 2 10K GVWR. If you stay under your RAWR, the springs, tires/wheels, will be able to handle the load. There will no DOT issue as mentioned above. Your insurance will cover you when needed, over weight, even impaired, not to say they could not drop your coverage later, after paying the initial claim.

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Posted: 12/31/17 07:01am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The only issue with ca dot will be axle/tire numbers and in particular your trucks 6340 rawr and any gross weight for registration if your state has that requirement. A 5th wheel trailer adds little to no weight on the front axle so no worries there.

Gas or diesel trucks all have close to the same scaled rear axle weights so not much axle/tire payload gained or lost with either.

Every insurance company I've delt with since '58 says as long as the truck is legally registered and the vehicle owner insurance payment is paid up they cover wrecks caused by DUI....speeding accidents......accidents caused by operator neglect.... overloading.....falling asleep. However they did say they didn't recommend doing any the above.


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Posted: 12/31/17 09:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I feel much better knowing my truck can actually tow something decent, my gcvwr is 23,500 according to my manual. So It sounds like i can shop around for a trailer with a 2500+/- pin weight and 15,500 gvwr +/- trailer.

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The issue is diesel. I have a 2012 F-250 with 6.2 gas and I'm fine with a 8500 lb GVWR 31' 5er. I'm extended cab instead of SuperCrew which saves weight and 8' bed for stability. Truck is 7160 empty with gas leaving 2840 lbs of cargo. Plenty power for a 9,000 lb 5er. Can I tow an Arctic Fox 31' 5er? No.


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Posted: 12/31/17 10:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Toyhaulernoob wrote:

I feel much better knowing my truck can actually tow something decent, my gcvwr is 23,500 according to my manual. So It sounds like i can shop around for a trailer with a 2500+/- pin weight and 15,500 gvwr +/- trailer.


Now one thing to keep in mind since you do seem concerned to stay legal is that in CA a 5th wheel that weighs over 15k will be required to be towed by someone with a noncommercial class A license. If you already have a class A license no worries. If you have a class C it might be something to think about, though I bet most people that are towing 5th wheels that are over 15k don't have the proper license and never get hassled.

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I had a '15 F-250 equipped the same as my current '17 350. My CCC was only 2150 lbs. By the time you add a 5th wheel hitch, you are likely at or under 2,000 lbs. 5th wheel toy haulers are vey pin heavy. When we started looking to upgrade, I didn't find a single 5th wheel toy hauler in the size range we needed, 30-36'. Every single one of them had a pin weight of 2400+.

When I upgraded to the '17 350, my CCC is now 3477. This allowed us to go with a slightly bigger trailer.


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Toyhaulernoob wrote:

I feel much better knowing my truck can actually tow something decent, my gcvwr is 23,500 according to my manual. So It sounds like i can shop around for a trailer with a 2500+/- pin weight and 15,500 gvwr +/- trailer.

It looks like you live in California. Be aware that if you tow a FW over 15,000 pounds weight rating then you will need a non commercial class A driver's license.

If between 10K and 15K you will need only your normal class C, but you will have to add the RV Fifth Wheel endorsement. There are a lot of threads for this topic if you are not familiar with it.


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Always get a F350 at a minimum when you want to tow something decent sized.


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