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CampingN.C.

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If it makes you feel better I've ordered a large 5th wheel toyhauler and plan to tow it with a Ram 2500. I should be well below RAWR and tire rating. Those are the two numbers anyone who uses their truck commercially goes by. 10K is a arbitary number to keep the truck listed as a class 2. This is the most debated topic on the web concerning 2500 trucks.

Ask yourself this. How can every single 250/2500 made by all three companies with hundreds of build variations, engines, axles, cabs, etc all cap out at exactly 10K gross.


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I do it with the combination in my signature. I have air bags and the Anderson hitch (which is only 35 pounds), in addition I have 18 inch rims and tires that are 3,415 per tire, quite a bit more than stock. I pull mine all over the Northwest and Montana. My GVW is 9,200, at the scales last year fully loaded, I had 10,200 total on my axles. So I'm over by 1,000 but under each axles weight rating.

So to answer your question, I do it but it's not the best. I have felt safe every trip but wish I had a 1 ton. In heavy side wind, it's not the most stable. I'm a person that likes extra capacity so I don't have to worry about it, but I have none now and it's noticeable. That being said, towing my 35 foot fifth wheel isn't drastically different than my old 24 foot bumper pull. I get about the same mileage and it's just as stable. Heavy side winds with the bumper pull it wasn't fully stable either.

You are committed on the pickup, so unless you have enough money to get a 1 ton, you can get a fifth wheel. I'd make it a small one, add air bags, and get it weighed very first thing. I'd also upgrade your tires as it's likely you'll be over weight on the rear tires.


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As usual, you will get plenty of good advice here.

Just noting that I have pulled my 35ft TH for 4 seasons and 14,000 miles and have never ( thankfully ) felt like I was under-trucked with my 2012 F250.


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MartyMoose wrote:

As usual, you will get plenty of good advice here.


And some marginal advice. [emoticon]


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MartyMoose wrote:

As usual, you will get plenty of good advice here.

Just noting that I have pulled my 35ft TH for 4 seasons and 14,000 miles and have never ( thankfully ) felt like I was under-trucked with my 2012 F250.


May I ask what toy hauler you have??

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KeysHauler wrote:

MartyMoose wrote:

As usual, you will get plenty of good advice here.

Just noting that I have pulled my 35ft TH for 4 seasons and 14,000 miles and have never ( thankfully ) felt like I was under-trucked with my 2012 F250.


May I ask what toy hauler you have??

thanks,
Ken


Hi Ken - Welcome aboard.

I clicked Marty's profile and it shows this: "2014 Heartland 305RW Road Warrior".

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Stay within your axle and tire ratings and go have fun. Payload on a diesel 3/4 ton means nothing.


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2001400ex wrote:


I have felt safe every trip but wish I had a 1 ton. In heavy side wind, it's not the most stable. I'm a person that likes extra capacity so I don't have to worry about it, but I have none now and it's noticeable.


There is very little weight difference between identical 3/4 and 1 ton SRW trucks. Extra leaf spring, diff tires and wheels. and sometimes they can be options on the 3/4 ton (meaning no weight diff). DRW would be needed to get a more stable setup, just going to a 1 ton is no guarantee for a more stable setup.


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Dayle1 wrote:

DRW would be needed to get a more stable setup, just going to a 1 ton is no guarantee for a more stable setup.


You can get really close to the stability of a DRW by going to 19.5" tires. It's a trade-off though.


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Dayle1 wrote:

2001400ex wrote:


I have felt safe every trip but wish I had a 1 ton. In heavy side wind, it's not the most stable. I'm a person that likes extra capacity so I don't have to worry about it, but I have none now and it's noticeable.


There is very little weight difference between identical 3/4 and 1 ton SRW trucks. Extra leaf spring, diff tires and wheels. and sometimes they can be options on the 3/4 ton (meaning no weight diff). DRW would be needed to get a more stable setup, just going to a 1 ton is no guarantee for a more stable setup.


An extra leaf spring would be better than my fix of air bags. In addition, I have an 08 and I'd be getting an 18. So part of the stability is 10 years of advancement in vehicles. My buddy has a 13 F350 and has a 14k dry toy hauler and it's night and day difference from mine. But yes, if I had an 08 1 ton, there wouldn't be a huge difference.

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