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Huntindog

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Posted: 01/12/18 11:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator



FYI

For those that are advocating being able to use the TT with the slides in.....
You are NOT supposed to use the slides when they are retracted.
the slides are mostly unsupported and at their weakest then. Most all manufacturers warn against doing this.
I am unaware of ANY that say it's OK.



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Posted: 01/13/18 05:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Huntindog wrote:

FYI

For those that are advocating being able to use the TT with the slides in.....
You are NOT supposed to use the slides when they are retracted.
the slides are mostly unsupported and at their weakest then. Most all manufacturers warn against doing this.
I am unaware of ANY that say it's OK.


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Declaring this doesn't make it so. [emoticon]

I just went through all 48 pages of my "Coachmen Travel Trailer / Fifth Wheel Owner's Manual" and nowhere does it make any mention of any kind saying the slide(s) can't be used when retracted. My own 2014 Coachmen Freedom Express has now been through 5 camping seasons and I use it with the slide retracted much more often than I do with it deployed, especially here at the house where I'm in it pretty well every day. I've had no issues with this slide to date and because this is our first slide trailer I question whether the day will come when it won't behave as it should but I have no reason to believe it would have anything to do with using the slide in the retracted position. If anything, any failure would be the result of misalignment or excessive wear caused by repeated use. Coachmen doesn't caution against using the slide in the retracted position and without documented proof to the contrary nor should you without a link to documentation that indicates otherwise.


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Posted: 01/13/18 05:52am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Huntindog wrote:



FYI

For those that are advocating being able to use the TT with the slides in.....


I think most people simply want to use the bathroom, get something out of the refrigerator, or take a quick nap without extending the slides. Some slides are designed so that ANY use is prohibited. I, like many people, want to be able to use the bathroom or get a sandwich out of the refrigerator without having to extend the slides. I would not want any unit that said ALL use is prohibited as you suggest.

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SoundGuy wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

FYI

For those that are advocating being able to use the TT with the slides in.....
You are NOT supposed to use the slides when they are retracted.
the slides are mostly unsupported and at their weakest then. Most all manufacturers warn against doing this.
I am unaware of ANY that say it's OK.


FYI

Declaring this doesn't make it so. [emoticon]

I just went through all 48 pages of my "Coachmen Travel Trailer / Fifth Wheel Owner's Manual" and nowhere does it make any mention of any kind saying the slide(s) can't be used when retracted. My own 2014 Coachmen Freedom Express has now been through 5 camping seasons and I use it with the slide retracted much more often than I do with it deployed, especially here at the house where I'm in it pretty well every day. I've had no issues with this slide to date and because this is our first slide trailer I question whether the day will come when it won't behave as it should but I have no reason to believe it would have anything to do with using the slide in the retracted position. If anything, any failure would be the result of misalignment or excessive wear caused by repeated use. Coachmen doesn't caution against using the slide in the retracted position and without documented proof to the contrary nor should you without a link to documentation that indicates otherwise.
Does it state anywhere in that 40 page manual that it is OK to use the slides when retracted?

If so, then YOU should provide a link... Just stating it doesn't make it so.

Manufacturers are often silent on things that they prefer to be quiet on. They like to be as they know that people may want to use their product in a way that is detrimental... They will then deny a warranty claim when damage occurs.
Only if they specifically state it is OK, will they stand behind it 100%.
Lifted trucks are a great example of this unspoken policy.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that a slide when retracted is just floating above the floor unsupported..... HAS to be weaker than when it is deployed and fully supported.

As I stated before, some maunfacturers DO warn against this. And some are silent. I am unaware of ANY that state it is OK.


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Posted: 01/13/18 07:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Do you really think that the slides are levitated and "just floating above the floor unsupported"? Now that is funny. Looks like they would fall to the pavement if what you say is true. No rocket scientist to figure that out.

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Posted: 01/13/18 07:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My Jayco manual devotes 20 pages to the owners of slideouts with that many or more specific warnings. NONE of the warnings say anything against using the trailer with the slides in a retracted position.

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My TrailCruiser has a small slide with the couch. It's supported by two legs in the front that have rollers at the bottom so the slide is supported at all times, in, out and sliding


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The cable slide on our Dart rests on 4 rollers when in and on nothing when out. The bottom of the slide is 3/4” thick. Can’t see a problem using it when in. Other types of slides may not be suitable for use when in.
If this is a concern, I would contact the manufacturer for the real info. I can’t as mine is an orphan.


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Huntindog wrote:

Does it state anywhere in that 40 page manual that it is OK to use the slides when retracted?

If so, then YOU should provide a link... Just stating it doesn't make it so.

Manufacturers are often silent on things that they prefer to be quiet on. They like to be as they know that people may want to use their product in a way that is detrimental... They will then deny a warranty claim when damage occurs.
Only if they specifically state it is OK, will they stand behind it 100 percent.
Lifted trucks are a great example of this unspoken policy.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that a slide when retracted is just floating above the floor unsupported..... HAS to be weaker than when it is deployed and fully supported.

As I stated before, some maunfacturers DO warn against this. And some are silent. I am unaware of ANY that state it is OK.


In a situation like slides, the proof of prohibition would be on the manufacturer not the user. If it went to court it would be on the manufacturer to prove that it was obvious and reasonable for a user to know it shouldn't be used when undeployed. How is that obvious and reasonable when a motorhome has seat belts on the couch that sits in the slide? Or that a trailer has cupboards in the slide that may be gotten into during quick stops.

A lifted truck is different because it is an aftermarket add on to the vehicle. The manufacturer is denying claims due to an alteration of the factory product. A slide is NOT an aftermarket add on. It IS part of the original factory product.


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Posted: 01/13/18 10:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

lgarcia wrote:

No slides for us...Results in a fast setup.


I hear ya. Our slides take an extra 60 seconds or so to deploy [emoticon]

Lots of reasons to chose slides or not, but speed of setup is likely not one of them [emoticon]

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