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Oldtymeflyr

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Posted: 01/05/18 03:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We are thinking about switching out our tankless to a more standard tank unit.

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Another option we have seen is to install a recirculating system. This would flow through the heater even with the faucet off. They can be controlled by a simple switch so they aren't on continuously. Just a thought...

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Posted: 01/05/18 04:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The previous generation of Girard tankless had a recall for defective gas valves. My 2017 has the correct valves marked with with a white plastic circle around the top of them. Look at the unit and you should see the two valves on the lower left of the unit. Tankless is not the best for dry camping as said above, but if your on hookups, this is my method that works fine for me.

1. Purchase a high quality Rinaldo adjustable water pressure gauge. You can get it on Amazon. I set mine at 60psi and I usually see a running pressure of about 40psi. The standard regulators sometimes keep the pressure too low.
2. Set the water temperature at the wall to 105 degrees
3. Use only hot water no cold. You don't need to mix in cold cause the water temperature is set.
4. Turn your hot water on full in the shower and leave it there. No on and off because the unit will cycle on/off and you get uneven cycle. Don't even touch the cold water in the shower.
5. Go to camping world and get a black water cap that has the built in hose connector. Connect a hose and just leave your grey valve open and drain the water down the sewer. At the end of your trip go back to the solid cap and collect some grey water so you can fill the black tank with fresh water/chemical. Hope it works for you. I'm happy not to use the campground showers anymore.


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FunTwoDrv wrote:

Another option we have seen is to install a recirculating system. This would flow through the heater even with the faucet off. They can be controlled by a simple switch so they aren't on continuously. Just a thought...

Gary


I made a valve controlled connection from the hot water low point drain (winterizing valve) to the fresh water winterizing drain. With the valve opened the pump runs constantly taking the on demand heated water through the hot water system.

Once the shower head is cleared of cold water, you have constant hot water.

When done with shower mode, turn off water pump until recirculating valve is turned of and the system put back in normal mode.





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kerrlakeRoo wrote:

I have one in my home (S&B) and dont like it. We have to trickle water from the bathroom sink to keep the volume through the water heater high enough to keep the unit from switching off. Being on a well my pressure fluctuates between 45 and 65 PSI, and tankless units want a perfectly constant flow to maintain a temp so its not a good match. And an RV has the added issue of limited storage for both fresh and gray water making that even more problematic.

I don’t know what brand or how old your heater is but you have a problem. Yes you need a certain flow to kick it on but you shouldn’t need to open another faucet. They don’t need a perfectly constant flow as you said, just enough flow to kick the burner on.
I have a Noritz and am on a well and have zero problems. Rv system is a different story.

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My impression is that how the tankless system is installed makes for better results. We have a Truma AquaGo and so far it has been pretty good. We have about 50 days of use so far on the new rig so I may have a different opinion in a year or two. Our system does have two recirculating loops; one to the kitchen and one to the bath. When the control is turned to normal, the heater starts and shuts off when the temperature rises in the loops. This provides near instant hot water and almost no waste. If hot water use is anticipated, normal is selected and hot water is ready in a minute or two. The Truma is so quiet that you have to stand right next to it to even detect that it is on, unlike the jet plane roar of the water heater in our previous motorhome. There is an Eco mode that maintains a minimum temperature in the system which is advisable in cold weather. Forgetting to switch to Eco mode will leave the heater to cycle on and off to keep the water hot in the lines wasting fuel and consuming battery power when dry camping. The true test is the shower. Previously, I had a heck of a time getting the water to the right temperature. Trying to conserve water by using the switch on the shower handle just caused the cold water to back up into the hot water line. Turning on the water again, you had to let it run for the hot water to come back. Now, once the single handle faucet is set to the right temp, I can control the flow from off to full flow and the temperature remains constant with no waste down the drain. With a water connection and the grey tank open, I could have hot water until the propane tank runs out. There was one issue so far. The pilot light on the control knob started flashing to indicate a fault. The fault code can be retrieved by observing the pilot light on the water heater with the door open. The fault code was not in the book, so I contacted Truma by email and they told me that the fault code I read indicated a program error in the control module. They sent me a new one which took all of five minutes to swap out. The old unit was returned in the provided shipping box. The Truma is expensive, however if it continues to perform as it has so far, I would not hesitate to recommend it on a new RV or as a replacement for a conventional heater. I would qualify that recommendation by saying that the recirculating feature is a must have to avoid water waste and to have consistent temperatures. There does have to be a minimum water flow before the heater kicks in, so without the recirculating system feature, there is no distinct advantage over a conventional heater.


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