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I noticed the same with my truck, I can drive around with high beams on and never get flashed by oncoming traffic. I have no idea why but I'm thinking about adjusting the lights down to some extent. They are awful even after I replaced the lamps with new sylvania ultras. And that is a real PITA on the Ford HD trucks.


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An OP here has a light bar set in the bumper of the late model Ford under his Phoenix Cruiser. You might want to look into that setup.

* This post was edited 01/12/18 10:14am by j-d *


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Check out https://www.nilight.com/

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Vehicles imported from USA to Canada must have driving lights. I learned on the Siennachat forum that all Toyota Sienna vans are manufactured with driving lights. For sale in US the driving lights fuse holder is left empty and the modification to allow them to be imported is simply to insert the fuse. Very sensible. Our 2004 E350 has no obvious post-manufacture modification so maybe the same thing applies to Fords.


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Harvey51 wrote:

Vehicles imported from USA to Canada must have driving lights. I learned on the Siennachat forum that all Toyota Sienna vans are manufactured with driving lights. For sale in US the driving lights fuse holder is left empty and the modification to allow them to be imported is simply to insert the fuse. Very sensible. Our 2004 E350 has no obvious post-manufacture modification so maybe the same thing applies to Fords.


I think you are mixing up things a bit.

I suspect the Canada requirement is for DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS or DRL.

Per Wiki (although not the greatest source of info it was handy to find) HERE

A daytime running lamp (DRL, also daytime running light) is an automotive lighting and bicycle lighting device on the front of a roadgoing motor vehicle or bicycle, automatically switched on when the vehicle is in drive, emitting white, yellow, or amber light to increase the conspicuity of the vehicle during daylight conditions.

DRL and "driving lights" are two entirely different functions.

DRLs typically used either the headlights (low beams) at a reduced voltage (does not burn at full brightness) or a separate low brightness powered, which MUST AUTOMATICALLY turn on anytime the vehicle is running.

"Driving lights" or "Auxiliary" lights are typically add on aftermarket lights which typically only supposed to be burning with main low beam only.. and are added on to aid the existing OEM low beam lights.

Some of these aftermarket lights are not allowed to be used for "on road" purposes since some exceed wattage/brightness limits for forward facing lights..

These are not required to turn on automatically but now days they are supposed to automatically turn off whenever the high beams are turned on.

Not to be confused with "Fog" lights which have a special purpose beam pattern which has a sharp top cutoff..

And yes, many vehicles may already have DLR harness in place, but may lack other needed parts like fuse, resistor (reduces the current through the low beams), relay(s) or in most new vehicles BCM (Body Control Module) programing enabled... So, your mileage may vary if trying to use the OEM wiring harness for DLRs..

Op did not really mention the reason for the driving lights so one can only guess that it is either for helping the OEM pathetic lights or possibly DRL.. My bet is fixing the OEM lights..

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Gdetrailer wrote:

DRLs typically used either the headlights (low beams) at a reduced voltage (does not burn at full brightness) or a separate low brightness powered, which MUST AUTOMATICALLY turn on anytime the vehicle is running.


Gdetrailer's info is generally right on.

I just wanted to add that, while some vehicles do use the low beams (either at low power or very occasionally at full power), it's also common--I think perhaps more common--to use the high beam lights at reduced power for the DRLs. Certainly that's been the design used on the cars I've had with DRLs.

The high beams have a couple of advantages here: they aren't designed with a cutoff generally below the eye level of oncoming drivers, so they're more visible, and typically people use the low beams more than the high beams on headlights so the low beams tend to burn out more quickly. Using the high beams for DRLs thus doesn't impact the life of the headlight bulbs as much, particularly when it's a single dual-filament bulb and both low and high must be replaced simultaneously. (I'm talking about incandescent bulbs here, of course, and not newer technologies such as LEDs or HIDs.)

I think a few vehicles used the parking lights, too.





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Thank you for explaining that!

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I have since changed the original bulbs in the headlights to LED. The new LED's light up the area close to the front of the rig that used to be dark, the light has changed from orange to white and I can see just fine. The new bulbs plug in and are easy to install. test driving a few nights ago and I got no flashing from on coming vehicles and at first I though I would. I noticed that some new vehicles have brighter lights than mine, it's a sign of the times I guess.
For 120 bucks, i say this project is a success.

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For slower speed driving, yellow lighting at 150' is useless to me. OEM bulbs, relays, ceramic sockets, Silversnot miracle bulbs, whatever, was useless. I changed to CREE LED bulbs and now the first 50' is lit with white light. The thirty dollars I spent in California was a waste of money to get the headlights aligned in a state approved lamp alignment facility. Yeah, the voltage at the sockets is within .2vdc of battery voltage.

BUT BUT BUT

The new bulbs do not light up the road at a distance. I would guess beyond 100' the lighting is the same or poorer than 100/80 Hella El Maximo incandescent lamps.

My lights never did offend oncoming traffic when on low beam.

After suffering years of blinding HID brand new car blue dazzle, I am convinced regulations governing car lighting aren't worth two honkers of snot. BMWs and Ford lighting seem to be especially obnoxious.

I am going to install focused SPOT LED aux lamps to light up distance lighting. Rather stupid to try and illuminate beyond a quarter-mile distance (with OEM lamps) to blind other drivers without helping to see. The new intelligence in government regulations.

Now try and convince me, looking at a welding arc of approaching car lamps makes me safer when on the road.

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