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monkey44

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Posted: 01/12/18 12:05pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You are asking us to help you cheat the system - not a good idea.

State and national parks are not housing ... we have short-stay rules so all of us can use the parks, not just a few long-terms.

Think about it !!! If anyone can stay as long as they want, how many sites would be full of the same camper all year long. Then you would have NO sites, and neither would anyone else.

We already have enough problems with campers that cheat the system now, let alone if it allows long-term stays, then one camper would just reserve the entire season.


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I think your plan has a flaw - state parks do not have weekly or monthly rates but commercial parks do - in Florida last winter on several occasions state parks were more than the weekly rate at commercial parks


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Tiger4x4RV wrote:

Watch out for the parks with two limits: X days for a single stay and Y cumulative days for a year.


Massachusetts counts cumulative stays in any one park.

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I think you have 2 choices: pick up and move every 14 days or stay at private parks.

Looking apart from the "rules", the places you want to stay are less likely to have full hookups. That means you're going to have to find a way to:

recharge your batteries - generators are often limited in use at these campgrounds.

Fill your fresh water - these campgrounds often have limited potable water access.

Empty your dump tanks - many do not have dump stations in the park, let alone nearby.

How long will your RV let you go without having to do the above? My guess is less than 14 days.


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I would do the same and probably avoid private campgrounds. Most but not all state and federal campgrounds have the 14 day rule. I think if you research it you can find a few. I know a nat'l forest campground in Fl. that doesn't but I'm not going to publisize it. It also has water and elec.


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Posted: 01/12/18 02:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

WI says:
To assure the greatest access to campsites, a maximum length of stay has been established. No one may camp or leave a camping unit in a family campground for more than 14 days in any 21-day period.


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Check out BLM long term visitor areas - 180 days per year.

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Former (now retired) federal campground manager here.

What most of the others have said is true - both the length of stay and the reasons for the rule. There are a few (pretty rare) exceptions. There are some National Forests that have season-long sites available for a seasonal fee. However, these only exist at a select few campgrounds that do not get a lot of use and the sites within those campgrounds are the least desirable for location, physical features like slope, etc. In other words, the sites don't get much use and that is why the agency puts them up for a longer stay...to generate more use and more revenue for the government and/or the concessionaire.

The sites are advertised early in the year and are awarded on a lottery basis, and the locals jump on these sites quickly.
So your chances of
1) Finding out which national forests and campgrounds have such sites
2) Finding when they advertise and make the lottery available; and
3) Actually winning a site
Are very slim indeed.

And chances are, there may not be another long-stay opportunity anywhere close to the one you may get. Perhaps not even in the same state.

I will second the advice that many others have provided:
Either be content with the 14 day stay and then move on to new adventures and exploration;
or
Volunteer to be a campground host at a federal or state campground - you can usually stay for a month, or perhaps for the whole season.
or
Find a private campground that will allow a lengthy stay and may have monthly or seasonal rates.

Good luck with your full-timing. It can be a wonderful experience, whatever you decide to do.

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Lynndann wrote:

Hello, we would like to retire with our rv full-time. We plan to stay in state/national parks and on federal lands such as BLM, state forests, etc. and do not plan on using any private campgrounds or rv parks.

Our question to all of you is this: How do you deal with the stay limitations of most state and national parks? I can't imagine picking up and moving every 14 days. We would like to stay in a lot of places for more than that time.

I know some people "pick up" and go down the street to another location and then come back, but I can't imagine doing that or how unsettling it must be to have to keep moving and hope there's a spot, then come back. That doesn't seem relaxing at all.




Please let us know how you full timers handle this particular issue, we would appreciate any and all advice. Thanks!


Best advise. Play by the rules. you want to stay in one place. Find a seasonal site in a seasonal RV park. At least you would be able to keep the RV clean

* This post was edited 01/12/18 05:41pm by Terryallan *


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Packing up and moving isn’t that much of a hassle. You get used to it. And you find you are carrying a lot of things you don’t use, don’t plan to use often.

We moved 73 times in 2017, a few stays of one night while crossing several states to one stay of 21 days and a few of 14 days. We covered a bit over 11,000 miles towing the trailer in 2017.

If you plan to stay in one general area, you will soon discover that there are commercial RV parks that specialize in providing long term accommodations.

You will figure out what works for you.

We’ve volunteered for 3, 4 and 6 month stays, but now we are enjoying traveling.


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