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Caleb Volksa

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I'm having trouble with my mentally unfit father, and I have no other family. I thought about getting an apartment, but here in NJ they're mostly all very expensive. I cannot meet the requirements to get a mortgage either. Luckily enough, after asking a friend I can use their enormous property to park an RV way in the back. He has lots of trails, more like dirt roads really, in his forest where he off roads his lifted truck. He told me I can build another trail and make a clearing so I'll have privacy and he won't have to see my campsite while he's having fun. He's agreed to let me fill up big water tanks if I pay for the water, and he will let me run an internet cat5 cable so long as I put it underground (which will be a pain in the ass because it's gonna be hell to dig a quarter mile trench thru a forest) and even electric too but I want to use Solar panels, a battery pack and a lil Honda generator for cloudy days)

I've already started building the road, I've significantly narrowed down where I'll put the campsite, and it's looking good. I can't put up a house as I'd like to, having grown up with a family construction business makes me know it will be easy, because he doesn't want to have to tear it down if the fuzz gets on his case after seeing it from a helicopter.

So an RV is the way to go. I went shopping on Craigslist and didn't find a lot of motorhomes, and I noticed that they all are sorta cheap looking on the inside. I've been working in multi-million dollar homes for the past couple years doing locksmithing and I want to have that same luxury feel even if I don't have lots of space. All kinds of construction work is my gig, so actually doing the conversion or remodeling is cake to me.

I'm just stuck at the point of deciding if I want to get a regular 30ish foot class B, or converting a bus or big box truck. I know nothing about RVs, If I do a conversion I don't know how I would heat one in the winter. Would a wood burning stove work? I imagine it would, but I'd like to know my other options too, what other people are doing. I don't know where I should go to buy water tanks and pumps either. I've never done indoor plumbing on a truck, I don't know exactly how it should be done while I am certain I could make it functional. I was thinking about using an extra modified Diesel tank mounted outside the truck on the frame as the sewage tank, and having a grey water tank from the sink and shower to refill the toilet.

If I renovate an actual motorhome, what does a class B look like with the interior torn up? I hate laminate floors and would put porcelain tiles in the bathroom and kitchen. The way busses have curved roofs makes me wanna not use a bus because it would be harder to frame the interior. Plus I don't like lots of windows.

I was planning on getting the tallest largest used box truck I could, circa 90s for ease of maintenance and lack of really expensive components. I don't want air suspension or brakes, those are more expensive to fix. Keeping the box on, and framing the interior like I would with a house so I basically end up with a luxury hotelroom. Tile floors in the kitchen and bathroom area, cheap hardwood and a rug or carpet in the rest. A shower and toilet and sink, a kitchen counter with a sink and a hot plate, a microwave and a toaster oven mounted above the counter, and using the rest as a bedroom loft.

What do you guys think is the way to go? And how does plumbing and heating usually work in an RV?

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Go with a workable plan. Your plan isn’t. How could anyone create an RV from a bus or truck knowing nothing about RVs? How is any of this assisting your Father?


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I would lean towards a higher quality 1990's class A, maybe even a diesel pusher if you could get it in and out, they tend to have much larger cargo capacity and larger holding tanks. Typically 100-120 gallon fresh water tank and 40-60 gallon black and gray tanks which should allow for cooking, showering and toilet use by one person for a couple of weeks at a time. Driving it out to dump and refill once every couple of weeks should keep the mechanical stuff in fair to good shape. Personally I would consider a 1990's Safari brand as they tend to have nice all wood cabinet work, if built in the late 90's will have solid surface countertops, as well as Fiberglass roof and Aluminum sides with full body paint. For the internet these days do a wifi link, with a pair of directional antennas, no need to trench in cat5, I am typing this message over a half mile long wifi repeater link through mixed vegetation and get fast enough speed to stream netflix. There are some great bargins out there on 1990's diesel pushers with iffy engines, that would likely be fine for 10-20 miles back and forth, but not up to cross country driving (oil blowby, etc.)

Perhaps something like this, just perhaps for less money and not in as good of shape https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1995-Safari-SAHARA-35--5001330433
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1995-Safari-SAHARA-35--5001330433

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https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1990-Safari-SERENGETI-5001079314

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because he doesn't want to have to tear it down if the fuzz gets on his case after seeing it from a helicopter.

It sounds like your buddy knows this is probably a code violation?
He doesn't have to be concerned about the fuzz, the tax assessor is a different story.

Why do you want a motorhome? A Travel Trailer would be cheaper and possibly more practical.

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Just chopping down the trees where were at is a code violation. The police work with code enforcement, he's always getting harassed about his car repair business that he never went thru the government for either.

I want a motorhome so that I can spend weekends at the Atlantic City Boardwalk too. And NYC. Hotel rooms are so expensive! And my plan is to turn a box truck into a luxury hotel room but despite not being able to find used RVs easily, I am thinking about it more today.

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Hey cool I just noticed Isaac posted links to an RV sales website. I'm gonna check that out..

I like the idea of the box truck so I'll blend in more easily, and because it follows the creepy white van principle which entails that a big white windowless vehicle doesn't get bothered for being scary haha.

I just think it would be a lot easier to find parking for a box truck than a motorhome. I know that the local Walmart gives people in RVs a hard time, but doesn't bother people with box trucks in their parking lot, so I figure that's gonna be common.

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Okay, I thought you were going to leave the unit stationary.

Did you google Stealth Camping or Stealth Campers?

I think a box truck is the best choice for what you have planned.
Consider a couple magnetic signs to help keep a low profile.

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It will be mostly stationary, I'm gonna pour some cement and level off a couple platforms for the front and rear wheels to park on. Big enough for some massive jackstands too incase I need to change a tire back there. Maybe put in some 3ft cement anchors for heavy duty ratchet straps in case a hurricane moseies up the coast.

I was planning on trying to get some kind of pay for advertising scheme going on, I've seen lots of ads where they wanna put decals on a car and I figure I could make a deal with them for some magnetic signs on my truck and **** all over their dreams because I'm parked in the woods haha

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I believe you must drive a certain amount of miles to get paid for advertising on your vehicle, but I'm not sure.
Maybe you can find a place that makes magnetic signs and get deal on 'mistakes' or signs that were returned?

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Excellent ideas

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