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Lexx

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Posted: 02/08/18 09:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Still struggling with the choice. The smallest Class A we like would be either a 41 ft Fleetwood Discovery 40g or a 43 ft long tag axle Newmar.

The toy haulers we're considering are either a 36 ft Grand Design Momentum 328m or a 39 ft GD Momentum 351M, the main difference being an extra loft bedroom and half bath on the 351m.

We'd be pulling a Jeep Wrangler 4 door withe the clay A, and my F450 would pull the toy hauler.

Which is easier to maneuver into state and national park sites if we can get into any of those? What about backing up into a site?

Out travels would be mostly in the summer when the kids are off school. The only time we'd use it in the winter would be any other school holidays like possibly Thanksgiving, Xmas weeks, and spring break.


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Posted: 02/08/18 10:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We just moved from a 37' 5th wheel to a 40' Class A DP. I find the DP just as easy to back up as the trailer was or maybe even a bit easier given the rear view camera. The trailer rig would "bend in the middle" but the DP has a 55-degree wheel cut which more than compensates. It is remarkable how tight the turning radius is on this coach!

I don't yet have experience with parks but one campground I had to back and turn almost 120-degrees (they guided me in the wrong way to an angled site). It was no problem!


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Posted: 02/08/18 10:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have no experience with an A. But several years ago a long A pulled up and chose a site next to us. It had a tree on each side near the front of the site. And the access road was fairly narrow. I thought no way was he going to get that MH in that tight space. As noted above, the turning radius was so good, he backed it right in the first try. I was impressed. I am not sure I could have backed my 35' 5er in there, at least not that easily.

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One decision point is which vehicle do you want to drive once you are at your campsite, the Wrangler or the truck? If it is the Wrangler, then there is no other choice; get the class A.

With the class A Wrangler combination, you would have to disconnect the Wrangler before backing into your campsite.

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The 40'Discovery will not have a tag like the 42' Newmar. If you get a tag axle coach make sure you can raise the tag from the cockpit. Much easier to turn and back up...Whether one is easier depends a lot on your ability and skills at backing up. Both or either can be challenging at times....
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I've never driven an "A", but just watching folks pull in and pull out with different kinds of campers, I think the "A" folks have it! And I'm often impressed how quick they can disconnect their toads too (usually in the middle of the road).


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Although I only have 5th wheel experience at this point, I am looking forward to my Class A because:

1. With a class A you can usually always find a spot somewhere where you can pull over and disconnect the toad without impeding traffic. This does not have to be right at the site. With my fifth wheel, many times my trailer would be backed into the site where it belonged but the truck would be stuck out in the road impeding traffic. The folks did get some entertainment as they waited, however, as I battled with the fifth wheel hitch binding. For me at least, unhooking was an important and potentially dangerous process that I preferred not to be rushed through.

2. With a class A, I anticipate placing it in a site will be much easier as I am just dealing with 1 drive and 1 steer axle that I can jack back and forth a few feet at a time if necessary. With the fifth wheel, if you are skilled you can make the trailer do what you want but the front of your truck has to be monitored to avoid hitting things.


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Having had both a A is much easier as it goes where you want it to go and I'm good at backing trailers. I unhook the toad while the DW is signing us in...always finishing first. We always go for the less expensive back in sites and unless it's tight I usually back in without the DW's help. Our favorite CG's are US FS campgrounds that do not take reservations. I will unhook and we take the car and scout things out to decide which sites we can get into. I try to make sure we will be able to get sat TV using a sat finder app as usually we are too far to get OTA signals.


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Posted: 02/08/18 03:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We went from a 40' 5er and F350 dually to our 43.5' Class A. The Class A is much easier to maneuver, because the steering axle is so close to the end of the unit at the front, and it's easy to see out the front as you go into your arc. I don't even have independent front suspension which tightens the turning radius even further. Add to that 3 cameras that help you back in - no contest.

As stated above, the 4-down toad on the back of the Class A ends the benefit of backing up. It takes a little planning to make sure you don't get caught in a spot you have to back up.


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Posted: 02/08/18 06:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've taken DP's into some places a 5th wheel wouldn't go.


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