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kbooky

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I have a 2014 Keystone High Country 321 RES Travel Trailer.

There is a design flaw in the rear cabinets. Should one of the cabinet doors open while the slides are in and you open the slide, it can catch the open cabinet door and tear the door and its frame apart. I found out the hard way.

I heard a crunch and did not know where it was coming from. The door survived, but I had to rebuild the cabinet frame. It took a few hours of time.

The easiest solution is to tie the doors together so they wont open much.

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on our trailer, I always open the slides about 6 inches, about enough to get between them, then walk back and look at both sides to make sure doors, drawers are closed, and nothing has fallen to interfere with the slides.

Then I move them the rest of the way out.

I've seen many trailers that have drawers, doors, chairs, etc. that can end up interfering with the slides when they extend or retract.


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kbooky wrote:

The easiest solution is to tie the doors together so they wont open much.


I do that anyway, using shock cord to ensure none of the cabinet doors can open inadvertently while traveling - no biggie. [emoticon]

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That is a good idea.

I am new here. How do you post a photo?

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I found how to post a photo.

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I added magnetic child locks to our bunk house closet doors for the same reason.


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No, its not a "design flaw" its "user error!"

My current camper is the first camper I've ever had that had slides, and it has 3 of them. About 4 months after we purchased the camper, I went to pull the slides OUT. The cabinet door above the back window was open just enough to catch the corner of the slide while it was being extracted. I didn't notice the door open. A few seconds later, I heard a "crunch! POP!" and thought to myself... what the ****? It didn't take much to see that the trim around the top of the slide (the wood stuff) had popped off and broken.

Well, I'm a life-long amature carpenter that's only completely remodeled 3 different houses from concrete to tar around a chimney, so thought, Ehh! I can fix this. And I did!

But lesson learned! Ever since, we keep bungie cords on all the doors now, exactly like SoundGuy's photo above shows! Slides never get pulled in until all doors are secured now! Never! We never pull the slides OUT unless we first check behind the slides to make sure nothing is open, or on the floor blocking the path. NEVER. It's our cast-in-stone rule now!

It's NOT a design flaw. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the cabinet catch. It was user error! I should have checked before extracting the slides.


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I wouldn't consider that a design flaw and I think I've had to watch for something like that in every slide equipped rv we've had.
If i open the slide without watching everything, it's my own fault if I hit something inside or out.


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Thanks for the replies.

Personally, I consider it a design flaw. The latches should be such that they need to be unlatched. Driving down the road caused them to open. The manufacturer does not make any mention of tying them closed, opening the slide only part way and checking for clearance.

Having said that, it is only an annoyance, not a reason to bad mouth the Cougar High Country.

I have had to repair other things on the unit to to my inexperience and errors.

We enjoy the unit and have done some interesting and useful things to it. I look forward to seeing what others are doing to customize.

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DutchmenSport wrote:

No, its not a "design flaw" its "user error!"

My current camper is the first camper I've ever had that had slides, and it has 3 of them. About 4 months after we purchased the camper, I went to pull the slides OUT. The cabinet door above the back window was open just enough to catch the corner of the slide while it was being extracted. I didn't notice the door open. A few seconds later, I heard a "crunch! POP!" and thought to myself... what the ****? It didn't take much to see that the trim around the top of the slide (the wood stuff) had popped off and broken.

Well, I'm a life-long amature carpenter that's only completely remodeled 3 different houses from concrete to tar around a chimney, so thought, Ehh! I can fix this. And I did!

But lesson learned! Ever since, we keep bungie cords on all the doors now, exactly like SoundGuy's photo above shows! Slides never get pulled in until all doors are secured now! Never! We never pull the slides OUT unless we first check behind the slides to make sure nothing is open, or on the floor blocking the path. NEVER. It's our cast-in-stone rule now!

It's NOT a design flaw. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the cabinet catch. It was user error! I should have checked before extracting the slides.

^^^^^^^this^^^^^^
I found out the hard way too. Actually, I already understood the possibility of contact existed, I just forgot to check that day. Just caught the knob and crunched. luckily I was quick on the button and nothing much happened. Also why overload clutches on slide drives should be adjusted to a minimum. Im sorry, I have to agree with the above, this one is on you, my friend. I consider it a sign for me to pay better attention. Lets be safe out there!


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