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Complicated fridge question, stay with me here... :\

nehuge
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Wow, here we go, this is complicated and lengthy, but you guys never fail me!

Okay, fridge works on propane, but not on AC. Dometic RM7030. I don't know that it ever has as I've always boondocked and never have plugged in until now.

Cooling unit replaced 10 years ago. Not a full timer.

RV park tech got his meter out and told me that the "elements" aren't getting the proper voltage. Said the elements ohm out fine. Said to get a Dinosaur board.

Got the new board, hooked it all up, and nothing. No lights on the eyebrow panel, nothing. I took a picture prior, texted myself with every jumper's position, etc.

For grins, put the old one back in. Voila. (voila as in lights on the panel, LP fired right up, but still no elements working)

Okay, fine, put new one back in. Nothing.

I figure while I think about if I had a bad new board or not, I will just work on something non related, so I start the engine just to get the seals wet. While it is running I walk by the fridge and...the eyebrow panel is on!...... Uh. Ok. I turn the vehicle off, and they go off. What the hell?

For grins yet again, I put the old one in, have the tech come over, and we comb every single connection and verify per, well, each other, and the instructions that I hooked the new board up correctly both times.

Start poking around with a meter and the two main white and black wires coming in to the fridge to its white plastic 4 way screw-down type of connector bridge is only getting 6v.

Now is this because the two 6v batteries I have are in series?

I called dinosaur, man he knew his stuff, we multimetered all sorts of pins all over the place, and he said the old board shouldn't even be working on LPG even with just 6v, but it does. We were both stumped.

All other 12v items on the coach work, as they always have.

Okay guys, do your thing!

Okay all, how do we even tackle this?
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nehuge
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I will get to the fridge when I can. Other things have come up that are much much bigger issues, so I will shelf this for now.

I have another topic posted of my current situation, and I'd like everyone's opinion.

garry1p
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I suspect you will find an open ground.

1st thing is disconnect the wires going to the circuit board and measure for 12v on the hot wire to a "good" ground.
Check the ground wire for a direct short to a "good" ground.

One of the wires readings will give you a direction to follow.
Garry1p


1990 Holiday Rambler Aluma Lite XL
454 on P-30 Chassis
1999 Jeep Cherokee sport

enblethen
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Nomad
As stated by YC 1, you need to disconnect the incoming wires from the refer and test for voltage. Test each wire. Verify that the ground is good by testing to another ground source.Ground should be reading near zero ohms.
I would un-plug the refer from 120 volts AC to eliminate that system from effecting the readings.

Bud
USAF Retired
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2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

YC_1
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Nomad
ok, if you have 12 volts at the pump then lift the wire off the fridge and measure again.If the voltage goes to 12 then you have a bad connection on that wire.
H/R Endeavor 2008
Ford F150 toad >Full Timers
Certified Senior Electronic Technician, Telecommunications Engineer, Telecommunications repair Service Center Owner, Original owner HR 2008

nehuge
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So I looked at the water pump connection, it gets 13v.....obviously since I'm on shore power.

The one hole punched through downwards from the fridge compartment to the chassis is original for sure.

Its quite the mess of wires. I'll take some pics. Maybe a video and put it on youtube and check back.

wa8yxm
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Ok if it works on propane then it's getting the proper 12 volts. A bad board is the most likely suspect.

Dino boards are often "Multi-Fit" with eitehr jumpers or DIP switches that have to be set depending on the control board they are replacing.

Second: On the "Floor" of the outside compartment on my Dometic is a fuse/conneciton board, this is in addition to the fuses on the control board.

TRhose are 120 volt fuses. on the floor. DO NOT TOUCH as they are indeed exposed.
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nehuge
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Thanks for all the inputs. The coach came with 12v battery setup (its a 1995 model). I may just take a seperate 12v battery source and hook it up to see how it behaves.

Like dutch said, perhaps its a connection at the series jumper. It is 93 degrees out here right now, (ya I know, in April)....and I'll get out to it once it cools off some.

I can put some pics up of the different connections as well.

dougrainer
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1. That RV park man is NOT a tech. Even a low skilled parts changer knows to ALWAYS check the DC voltage at an appliance.
2. A Control board CANNOT change the incoming LINE(AC) voltage, so that just shows that the Park Parts Changer does not know anything
3. IF you have 2- 6 volt batteries and the VOLTAGE at the refer is 6 volts, and you have 12 volts thru out the RV, That means you have just 1 wire at one of those 2 batteries that is ONLY connected to the Pos of the one 6 volt battery. That wire is going to the refer or maybe other appliances. Check your batteries and you should not have a SINGLE only wire to just one post on one of the batteries.
4. It usually takes a MINIMUM of 9 volts to activate the LP Gas valve on the refer, so it is amazing you had the refer working on LP at all
5. Have you changed the batteries or messed with them lately? That would be the reason you had a miswired battery. Doug

wolfe10
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Only way to get 6 VDC from two 6 VDC batteries wired in series is for wire feeding the refrigerator to be coming directly off ONE battery rather than for the ground from one and hot from the other.

Yes, this assumes the batteries are OK.

Would be too much of a coincidence for their to be exactly a 6 volt drop across wiring and connections.
Brett Wolfe
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OkieGene
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Following this post with great interest.

Im curious what would happen if you disconnected the fridge power, and powered it from a different 12 volt power source, completely different from your RV. Go a ham radio 12 volt power supply, or a different battery? . If the fridge runs this way then you know for sure it's your existing wiring.

Dutch_12078
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Are there any wiring connections at the series jumper between the two 6-volt batteries? That could be a wiring error someone made at some point that's only feeding 6-volts to the fridge.
Dutch
2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A
F53 chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS
Bigfoot Automatic Leveling System
2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump
ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/Blue Ox baseplate

enblethen
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Check your voltage again at refer. Use a different ground source.
Verify that polarity is correct.

Bud
USAF Retired
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2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

YC_1
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Fix the obvious. Start at the batteries to find the 12 volts.

Might just have bumped the switch by the door that turns off lots of stuff.

The 6 volts could be a sneak path. Starting the engine pushes the voltage up to the working threshold of the circuit board but not high enougg to activate the relays it drives.
H/R Endeavor 2008
Ford F150 toad >Full Timers
Certified Senior Electronic Technician, Telecommunications Engineer, Telecommunications repair Service Center Owner, Original owner HR 2008

nehuge
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When the vehicle runs, that 6v goes up to like 7.2.
Maybe I can check the other known working things like water pump, see what their readings are.