Got to lift the fiver

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

Well with the new Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 the fiver has to be lifted. the springs are on top of axle already. Found a company that makes blocks to lift it more. Bigger tires are not an option as they will not clear unless fiver is lifted. Anybody else had to resort to this?

[SkiSmuggs]

Wills6.4 Hemi wrote:

laknox wrote:

Wills6.4 Hemi wrote:
225/75/15 I looked at 16" tires but don't have enough room between the tires

I'd reconsider the Maxxis. There are better options, these days, and Maxxis has been having more frequent failures the past couple years. Also, they're still restricted to 65 mph. You may not want to drive faster than that, but a tire that's rated higher, is going to be (or at least on paper) a better tire, with more heat resistance. That is the real killer of tires.

Lyle

i have never had a failure with a maxxis trailer tire. I have other brands and so have my friends. All have switched to Maxxis and no more failures in our group. if it ain't broke don't fix it jmho.

Agreed, I replaced the original Blow Max after the first season with Maxxis, and upgraded from D to E rated. No problems until a bearing failure heated one of them up 4 years later to where it developed a raised center in the tread 3000 miles later. Replaced all four with more of the same 3 years ago and going strong.

[SkiSmuggs]

Wills6.4 Hemi wrote:

Dtank wrote:
Bookmark this thread to link for future posters who can't decide whether they want to purchase a 4x4 or a 4x2 truck.....like the poster who couldn't decide between the two - as he likes the *looks* of a 4x4 better.

OP - NO "blocks" - do it right as suggested!

:W

the tread has nothing to do with 4x4 or 4x2 I have to have 4x4. The truck being lowered may be enough I will know tonight. If not the spring place advised they can help with different springs on the fiver.

During season 7, the OEM springs on my fiver were so soft, the tires were bottoming out against the floor. I took it to a spring shop where they replaced the 4 leaf spring packs with 6 leaf spring packs. It raised the fiver 2" so it is now level and no more wallowing in bumps. It ticks me off that they put minimal suspension on these things.

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

laknox wrote:

Wills6.4 Hemi wrote:
225/75/15 I looked at 16" tires but don't have enough room between the tires

I'd reconsider the Maxxis. There are better options, these days, and Maxxis has been having more frequent failures the past couple years. Also, they're still restricted to 65 mph. You may not want to drive faster than that, but a tire that's rated higher, is going to be (or at least on paper) a better tire, with more heat resistance. That is the real killer of tires.

Lyle

i have never had a failure with a maxxis trailer tire. I have other brands and so have my friends. All have switched to Maxxis and no more failures in our group. if it ain't broke don't fix it jmho.

[laknox]

Wills6.4 Hemi wrote:
225/75/15 I looked at 16" tires but don't have enough room between the tires

I'd reconsider the Maxxis. There are better options, these days, and Maxxis has been having more frequent failures the past couple years. Also, they're still restricted to 65 mph. You may not want to drive faster than that, but a tire that's rated higher, is going to be (or at least on paper) a better tire, with more heat resistance. That is the real killer of tires.

Lyle

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

225/75/15 I looked at 16" tires but don't have enough room between the tires

[azrving]

What size tires are you running now?

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

Towed 5er last weekend and still need the 5er a couple more inches up to be level and enough clearance at truck bed. I will take one or two more short trips before winterized. This winter I will address the issue. The B and W hitch that came with the 5er is the quietest hitch with no slop that I have ever used. The 5er although is a 2013 or 14 can't remember now had never been camped in but 1 night prior to me buying it a year ago. All systems worked and the trip was trouble free. I will update when I raise the 5er. I am ordering all new maxxis 8008 tires to replace the ones that have aged out but have very few miles. I will also cut plexiglass for the screen door as I have on every unit we have ever owned. This is our 8th TT or 5er. Thanks, Will

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

Dtank wrote:
Bookmark this thread to link for future posters who can't decide whether they want to purchase a 4x4 or a 4x2 truck.....like the poster who couldn't decide between the two - as he likes the *looks* of a 4x4 better.

OP - NO "blocks" - do it right as suggested!

:W

the tread has nothing to do with 4x4 or 4x2 I have to have 4x4. The truck being lowered may be enough I will know tonight. If not the spring place advised they can help with different springs on the fiver.

[Dtank]

Bookmark this thread to link for future posters who can't decide whether they want to purchase a 4x4 or a 4x2 truck.....like the poster who couldn't decide between the two - as he likes the *looks* of a 4x4 better.

OP - NO "blocks" - do it right as suggested!

:W

[garyp4951]

Allworth wrote:
It would be nice if everybody listed where their Mechanical Engineering degrees are registered. PE numbers??

That was smart azz statement. I guess we all need degrees to work on our trucks according to you.

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

Allworth wrote:
It would be nice if everybody listed where their Mechanical Engineering degrees are registered. PE numbers??

Dont have one lol 🙂

[Allworth]

It would be nice if everybody listed where their Mechanical Engineering degrees are registered. PE numbers??

[Wills6_4_Hemi]

Update, got truck lowered in the rear 3 1/4 inches. Truck actually looks level now. Total cost $320. I can't tell any difference in ride etc. I will hookup to fiver soon as possible to see if a small lift is required to give me enough clearance and have the fiver level.

[Ski_Pro_3]

Wills6.4 Hemi wrote:

Ski Pro 3 wrote:
A four inch drop is going to have to reconfigure a lot more than just suspension. Brake lines, drive lines will need to be shortened. Shocks will need to be resized for the shorter suspension travel. How much space between the axle and the rubber stops anyways? If it's, say, 6 inches and you just lowered the rear 4 of them, you are left with 2 inches of travel.
In order to balance the front, you'll have to lower it as well, affecting some steering components. Think this option all the way through before going forward.

truck has 8-9 inches of travel. 4 inches will have no effects on the systems you mentioned. Squating my truck to bumper stops would take well over 6000 lbs. my pin weight is less than 2000 lbs and only squats the truck 1/2 inch. Thanks for the advise but the modification will have no effect on the other systems and In fact will level the truck. These new trucks are way to tall imho. Thanks

You mean your truck HAD 8 inches of suspension travel prior to lowering it 4 inches. And it HAD 6000 pounds capacity before hitting the bumper stops when there was 8 inches of suspension travel. With 4 inches, it will bottom in much less than even half that amount as the suspension sag isn't linear on springs. The first half of travel takes less weight than the last half. Shocks have valves. The first part of the shock travel absorbs small bumps and is pretty mild. Their damping action gets progressively firmer the further they are compressed. Many aftermarket shocks are pressurized. Loading a shock with 4 inches of compression (or what ever the equivalent is for the shock angle) is going to load a pressurized shock and make it pretty stiff with an unloaded truck. If a shock ever needed to come off the truck and a new one installed, it won't be easy compressing it enough and might actually be dangerous.
The brake lines, drive lines, tie rods, etc all may 'work' with a 4" sag, but they are not designed for that and they should all be revisited to be sure they are optimized for the changes you have in mine. With that said, I want to wish you the best of luck with your decision.