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fj12ryder

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Posted: 05/23/18 08:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yeah, working to create a route on a 5" or 6" screen doesn't sound like much fun. I like to create routes while we travel and not having access to offline route planning software is pretty much a deal breaker for me.


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Google and Waze are good, but not good enough for high clearance or long vehicles or high weight trucks.

Between Gamin and our Rand Mcnally Vs Google, I'll leave Google until I need to research our final location or want a fly by.


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Posted: 05/24/18 07:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Will be curious to see how this works out. My opinion only.

It's not so much the hardware that is important, its the software. Most any of them are good if you want to stay on Interstates, I miss Streets and Trips: the only system I've found that would let you choose preferred roads on a sliding scale of like/dislike. Garmin and Google are absolutes. My NuVi will give me the most amazing routes if I say avoid highways or avoid secondary roads. IMHO, Garmin is the worst. I leave it on just because I have it but Google Maps is much better but even it will give you some weird solutions if I want to venture off Interstates...and I hate that it keeps insisting that it found a better route...

Playing with the TomTom route planner on the link I can't see that it will solve this problem that I have. But, will watch what you folks find. Thanks for the thread.


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Posted: 05/24/18 11:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for this post.

As an rv'er who is always trying to make things less aggravating for himself, I find this Tomtom tempting. I tried the Trip Planner through the link, and I am impressed so far. It's intuitive, and seems easy for my feeble brain to grasp. Some of the things that always irritated me about other planners is that when I try to put in a via/stop/alternate route around a city, the other planners do weird stuff to the route. Like sending us in loops or backtracking. This Tomtom planner does not do that. It works well as long as the stops/detours are put in sequential order as we would approach them when traveling.

I'm not sure how effective it will be if we can't get online when we are in the mountains. I haven't found info indicating a downloadable freestanding version. Anybody know if it can be downloaded, or if it is freestanding if we buy the Tomtom trucker 620?


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Posted: 05/24/18 12:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

camperkilgore wrote:

...I'm not sure how effective it will be if we can't get online when we are in the mountains. I haven't found info indicating a downloadable freestanding version. Anybody know if it can be downloaded, or if it is freestanding if we buy the Tomtom trucker 620?
I looked around the site pretty good, and saw no indication that there was any kind of stand-alone software. Everything seems to be web oriented, and this doesn't seem to be any different.

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Posted: 05/24/18 12:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There is no standalone software. The choices for building and managing routes are: through the website, through the MyDrive smartphone app or directly on the device (the only method that doesn't require a network connection).


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Posted: 05/24/18 05:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Belgique wrote:

Will be curious to see how this works out. My opinion only.

It's not so much the hardware that is important, its the software. Most any of them are good if you want to stay on Interstates, I miss Streets and Trips: the only system I've found that would let you choose preferred roads on a sliding scale of like/dislike. Garmin and Google are absolutes. My NuVi will give me the most amazing routes if I say avoid highways or avoid secondary roads. IMHO, Garmin is the worst. I leave it on just because I have it but Google Maps is much better but even it will give you some weird solutions if I want to venture off Interstates...and I hate that it keeps insisting that it found a better route...

Playing with the TomTom route planner on the link I can't see that it will solve this problem that I have. But, will watch what you folks find. Thanks for the thread.
Doesn't copilot allow you to select road preferences as you mentioned?

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Posted: 05/25/18 06:20am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pirate: it didn't the last time I tried it (or I didn't see that it would). I'll look again. Thanks.

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Posted: 05/25/18 06:31am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

In CoPilot you can set both road preference (5 levels of preference from strongly avoid to strongly favor) in the vehicle profile setting. That's is the ROUTE menu then VEHICLE ROUTING PROFILES, the VIEW/EDIT, then ROAD PREFERENCES.

However there's a big problem with that. The only way to use that feature is to turn off "Enable ActiveRoutes." ActiveRoutes is the historical real traffic flow data from Inrix which knows real road speeds at the individual road level. This real traveling speed of the road due to traffic congestion, stop lights, etc is ignored and is replaced by the meaningless speed that the user enters in the Road Preferences setting. It's the same speed for all roads of that category. The resulting ETA is horrible when you do that. As just one example, you set a speed for freeways and then CoPilot uses that same speed for a freeway in the middle of Nebraska at 2am as well as through Atlanta at 5pm. Same goes for state highways in the middle of nowhere vs state highways that are actually major urban roads. It's a horribly designed feature.

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Posted: 05/28/18 06:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

any GPSR is no smarter than it's owner, you have to set your preferences correctly because it will do what you tell it to

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