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Posted: 05/31/18 11:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mike brez wrote:

Well after 15 years of pulling around my 01 Wrangler I'm looking for a newer one.
Have my eye on a 2015 4door Sahara. For a little more $ I can change out stock number and use the d hook spot for tabs.
Anyone out there using This bumper? Or something similar.


Mike,
That bumper you linked in the opening post is very, very nice. I'm running many Rugged Ridge products right now in our '15 JKUR and I've had zero issues with any of them. Those D-ring "Recovery Tabs" will work flawlessly for your intended tow setup. We're presently using a set of Smittybilt Gen I bumpers and are using the recovery tabs for towing with our Blue Ox Aventa.
I bought the tow bar adapters from Amazon which had the best price for them. I'd post pics but, like many, I lost privlages for posting pics when Photobucket got greedy. I can post on other sites but, not this one. Anyway, using those recovery tabs is a great way to go. I run around with many, many Jeepers that tow their jeeps, ALL OF THEM WITH THE D-RING mounts. And not one has ever had any issues. Good luck.
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Posted: 05/31/18 02:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Are these the D ring adaptors

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I was thinking of these

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Posted: 05/31/18 05:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I got a email back about that rugged ridge bumper that I originally posted and they said it's not for four down towing

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mike brez wrote:

I got a email back about that rugged ridge bumper that I originally posted and they said it's not for four down towing

I'm not suprised, the D-ring are not designed for that type of use, though some use it. It's not just the D-Ring adapters but the bolts that come with them. If you use the Rock Hard adapter that I link to you should be fine as the bumper itself has nothing to do with it.


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I don't know. Seems they don't think it is strong enough. This is the reply I received from my question.

Hello,

You asked the following question regarding the product "Rugged Ridge 11548.01 Spartan Front Bumper with High Clearance Ends & Overrider for 07-18 Jeep Wrangler JK "
https://www.quadratec.com/p/rugged-ridge/spartan-front-bumper-high-clear...

Your Question:
Can I use this bumper with tow bar brackets instead of the D rings so that I can pull my Jeep behind my motor home?

Our Answer:
No, this bumper is not rated for flat towing



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I understand, it's a CYA type of reply.

But if you think about it the bolts and the tow brackets are the potential weak links. The bolts and the bracket are the points that will be taking the stress of being pulled on, not the bumper. But you need to feel good about your towing, that's what matters most.

Here is another bumper to consider, Iron Cross Full Size Front Bumper With Push Bar

There is a custom Jeep parts maker in Colorado that makes one with tow brackets that is way more affordable but I've lost the URL. I'll see if I can find it for you.

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I just looked at the installation instructions and see the D tabs bolt through the wranglers frame flange. It really is the same thing I posted above of my 01 wranglers base plate and I have pulled that one around like that for 15 years.
I know this one is a little heavier but I think it should be fine. Now to find a place for the safety cables.

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The manufacture from Colorado I was thinking is Tomken

I know one of the members here bought a bumper from them and had custom attachment points for their tow bar welded on

Here are some posts from the Archives searching for "Tomken" **Click Here**

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mike brez wrote:

Are these the D ring adaptors

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I was thinking of these

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Mike,
Sorry for not getting back here sooner, been traveling a slight amount. No, those are not D-ring adapters. Those are simply towbar adapters to tow bar mounts on various applications. Photobucket was the online photo storage place that I and many others used for storage of photos for when needed to apply to forums like this. But, when they got greedy and wanted a ton of money just to store photos, when there's apparently other photo cache sites that do do it for free, I lost the ability to post photos. And I've not found other or, been able to adapt to other photo host sites.

Now, with all that being said, I'd show you my "D-ring" adapters I use with my Blue Ox Aventa and, our Smittybilt front Mod bumper. And, contrary to popular belief, they (well at least most of those D-ring attachment tabs) ARE STRONG ENOUGH to be used for flat towing. Mine are WELDED on, NOT bolted. And, they are welded from BOTH sides of the bumper face.

Been Jeeping for decades, Moab, Colorado, AZ, CA and more and, have used those recovery tabs (D-ring mounts) thousands of times for Jeep rescue situations in all kinds of circumstances. Of course they're STRONG enough, that's what they're designed for, is PULLING YOUR JEEP out of some tough situations. Or, using your jeep to pull someone else out of their tough situation.

As stated earlier, I've used them for flat towing for years and years and have NEVER, EVER had any of them even crack a weld due to using them for flat towing. This is a choice thing. No one's forcing anyone to use them. If you're thinking they're not strong enough, then simply don't use them. We've got many, many friends that also use their recovery tabs for flat towing and also have never any of them even appear to begin to fail.

This is also about knowing the weld capability, bolt strength, steel plate strength and more. None of our group has ever used any form of a base plate. As stated, we've done Moabs, Colorados, Nevada's, Arizona's and more states trails for years and years and we just don't like the additional loss of ground clearance and angle of approach loss due to using them and, besides, the recovery tabs are there so, to us, just use them. Again, it's a choice/preference thing. If this works, here's a link to the ones we use.
Scott

https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Blue-Ox/BX88296.html?feed=npn&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq9rsovu32wIVDoxpCh1saQHFEAQYASABEgL5cPD_BwE

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If Rugged Ridge thinks the recovery tabs on their Wrangler bumper are not strong enough to pull a Wrangler then what in the world are they good for and why did they even bother putting them on? Does Rugged Ridge just put the recovery tabs on for looks? Do they think we all use our Wranglers (and bumpers) just as mall crawlers?


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