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mowermech

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Posted: 06/06/18 06:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

donn0128 wrote:

You shourld actually be using a torque wrench to check and tighten the lug nuts.


If you are going to carry a torque wrench, be sure you know how to use it (some, possibly many, people don't) and how to take care of it (again, many people don't) and when and where to get the calibration checked (a torque wrench that isn't accurate is no better than a 4 way lug wrench or a breaker bar).


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I can't believe I survived to retirement using a crow.bar or 4-way instead of a torque wrench on wheels. Only time I recall using a torque wrench was tightening bearing caps on an engine rebuild [emoticon].

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Pop-Pop C wrote:

I use a breaker bar and socket, with a cheater pipe.


magicbus wrote:

I can't believe I survived to retirement using a crow.bar or 4-way instead of a torque wrench on wheels. Only time I recall using a torque wrench was tightening bearing caps on an engine rebuild [emoticon].

Dave


Wow, do you know how easy it is to over torque a lug nut with those devices!!! [emoticon]

I just replaced the wheels on a John Deere 1435 Mower, torque on the lug bolts was 165 ft. lbs.! Yes, it was a bit of a reef on 250 ft/ lb. torque wrench, but not killer.
Without a torque wrench, it is too easy to over torque a nut or bolt resulting in breakage. Not fun running down the freeway!!!


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donn0128 wrote:

You shourld actually be using a torque wrench to check and tighten the lug nuts.


Someone told be that they tighten their lug nuts to 3 erts.
I asked, what is an ert?
He said you know, that sound it makes when you tighten the lug nut, ert,ert,ert.

Since I started autocrossing a Miata 23 years ago, I use a torque wrench on most everything.
Too little torque and things fall apart.
Too much torque and the bolt gets stretched and weakened.





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postmandug wrote:

Just decided to check the lug nuts on our TT we purchased last fall. Got the trusty 4-way lug wrench out of my truck and realized the walls on it are too thick to fit on the nut with enough clearance on the rim. Good thing I checked now instead of after a flat! Added a 3/4 socket and long breaker bar to my tool box I keep in the TT. Go check yours now to make sure you have the right size lug wrench or socket in your TV or TT.


Have you actually tried to change a tire on your TT? I highly recommend doing that at your house to make sure you have what you need. I have found that my factory truck jack works just fine to change my TT's tires - the multi-piece extended bar is actually quite convenient. And yes I had to get a socket just to fit my TT's lugs (nuts, whatever works).


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Does the jack fit under the axle

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azrving wrote:

Does the jack fit under the axle
When the tire is flat?





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rhagfo wrote:

Pop-Pop C wrote:

I use a breaker bar and socket, with a cheater pipe.


magicbus wrote:

I can't believe I survived to retirement using a crow.bar or 4-way instead of a torque wrench on wheels.


Wow, do you know how easy it is to over torque a lug nut with those devices!!! [emoticon]

Maybe you can over-torque a bolt with a 4-way or the jack handle that comes with the vehicle, but I'm sure I would hurt myself trying.

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Tvov wrote:

postmandug wrote:

Just decided to check the lug nuts on our TT we purchased last fall. Got the trusty 4-way lug wrench out of my truck and realized the walls on it are too thick to fit on the nut with enough clearance on the rim. Good thing I checked now instead of after a flat! Added a 3/4 socket and long breaker bar to my tool box I keep in the TT. Go check yours now to make sure you have the right size lug wrench or socket in your TV or TT.


Have you actually tried to change a tire on your TT? I highly recommend doing that at your house to make sure you have what you need. I have found that my factory truck jack works just fine to change my TT's tires - the multi-piece extended bar is actually quite convenient. And yes I had to get a socket just to fit my TT's lugs (nuts, whatever works).


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Tvov wrote:

postmandug wrote:

Just decided to check the lug nuts on our TT we purchased last fall. Got the trusty 4-way lug wrench out of my truck and realized the walls on it are too thick to fit on the nut with enough clearance on the rim. Good thing I checked now instead of after a flat! Added a 3/4 socket and long breaker bar to my tool box I keep in the TT. Go check yours now to make sure you have the right size lug wrench or socket in your TV or TT.


Have you actually tried to change a tire on your TT? I highly recommend doing that at your house to make sure you have what you need. I have found that my factory truck jack works just fine to change my TT's tires - the multi-piece extended bar is actually quite convenient. And yes I had to get a socket just to fit my TT's lugs (nuts, whatever works).


It's obviously NOT that easy as I'm pretty sure I've never seen a torque wrench used to put tires on in any mechanics shop or tire place I've ever been to. They all just use the air guns or electric equivalent. There's not some plague of wheels flying off of vehicles from overtightened lugnuts due to using simple air guns.


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