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tony lee

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Yes, similar to what happens in the desert in Australia. Dirt road gets lots of rain and is closed by the authorities (on pain of multi-thousand dollar fines nowadays) to stop damage. Morons drive around the barriers and turn it into a quagmire that extends the road closure for weeks rather than a few hours.
Just needs us to be flexible the same as for the rest of the Alaska trip where landslides and fires can force major changes to timetable and route. One of the reason we travel with full fuel and supplies and full water and empty waste tanks so it is no big deal to spend a few days sitting on the side of the road.


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tony lee wrote:

One of the reason we travel with full fuel and supplies and full water and empty waste tanks so it is no big deal to spend a few days sitting on the side of the road.

The #1 reason we follow your lead is in case we find a spot to camp that we hadn’t counted on. Your reason is number 2 on our list...lol...
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Yes, I did say it was one of the reasons and like you, our main reason is because we almost never ever reserve campgrounds (because we use them as little as possible) so need to work on the assumption that what we have on board might have to last us for a week or more.

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Made it up and down the Dempster Hiway. What a great drive. Saw wild life, and miles of beautiful scenery. The road was a little pot holey in places, but no need to be in a rush. Very few bugs. The only hazard was idiot truckers that insist on driving beyond their ability and shower your windshield with rocks. Left the coach at Eagle Plains and went the rest of the way with the toad. Nothing more than 5000lb allowed from Inuvik to Tuk. Real soft in places but a great drive in a lighter vehicle. What a amazing experience, sitting on the shore of the Beaufort Sea and watch the sun almost set and rise again.


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D&D Wonderers wrote:

Made it up and down the Dempster Hiway. What a great drive. Saw wild life, and miles of beautiful scenery. The road was a little pot holey in places, but no need to be in a rush. Very few bugs. The only hazard was idiot truckers that insist on driving beyond their ability and shower your windshield with rocks. Left the coach at Eagle Plains and went the rest of the way with the toad. Nothing more than 5000lb allowed from Inuvik to Tuk. Real soft in places but a great drive in a lighter vehicle. What a amazing experience, sitting on the shore of the Beaufort Sea and watch the sun almost set and rise again.


That's awesome. Especially the sunrise/sunset thing. What an experience! We'd like to give it a try some day.
Did you wind up with any "stone shower" damage? We almost made it through the "kill zone" in northern BC/YT in 2016, but a pinhead driving a semi rig did exactly what you described to us (the roadway was medium-small sized aggregate, posted as 50kph, and he was doing at least 90kph through it - we had no where to escape to), and we took a chip high on the passenger side. Got fixed in Great Falls, MT at the Safelite there. Great service, great price, Great Falls.
Could you have driven the coach/towed combo to Inuvik? Or would it have been more trouble than it's worth? I see there's at least one ferry crossing between Eagle Plains and Inuvik, possibly two. Would that have been passable with both vehicles?

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The road is better between Eagle and Inuvik than before Eagle. There are two ferries. The first across the Peel River would be no problem. The docking ramps where lvel so a rig with long rear overhang would have no problem. The second accross the Mackenzie was uneven. Maybe they could have made it better if needed. Most shorter C classes weren't having any proplem. Later when the road firms up the wieght restriction will come off, then you could likely take your rig right to Tuk.

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I see. Thanks for the info. Long drive from Whitehorse to Eagle Plains? Many amenities (diesel?) along there and beyond? We encountered more than we expected along the Alaska Hwy in northern Canada. It was a pleasant surprise.
I've got about 8 feet behind center rear axle, so it might be doable based on your ferry descriptions. The tail clears the ground on level ground by about 14" at the tail drag bumpers. My driveway has a fairly steep approach and I have no trouble backing or driving in. If done carefully.
My Navion is just under 5000 kg, ready to roll. The Wrangler is less than half that. When does the road "firm up"? Good news about bugs. We hate 'em.
Thanks again for the info. If you think of anything else that might be important about the route north from Whitehorse, I'm all ears.

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Would. small (32’) class a have a problem to Inuvik other than spraying rock? On our way now but planning on leaving unit in Dawson.


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There is no fuel on the Dempster until Eagle Plains. 375km. Next would be at Inuvik. The bug level was good but may change as temperatures warm. When off loading the ferry, alert the deck hands and they will guide you. It will be nice having your own rig at Tuk. Drive through town, the road ends at a great location on the shore for boon docking.

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D&D Wonderers wrote:

There is no fuel on the Dempster until Eagle Plains. 375km. Next would be at Inuvik. The bug level was good but may change as temperatures warm. When off loading the ferry, alert the deck hands and they will guide you. It will be nice having your own rig at Tuk. Drive through town, the road ends at a great location on the shore for boon docking.


Thanks for all the added info.
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