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Dayle1

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If the fifth wheel has a Sidewinder or Revolution pin box that moves the pivot point back under the trailer, then a simple fixed FW hitch is all you need. There are several advantages to this short bed solution, the trailer will track and back more like the TT you are familiar with. Otherwise, fifth wheels cut inside the tow vehicle more than a TT when turning. Also, other solutions have the risk that the back of the pin box can hit the inside of the truck bed rails on sharp turns.

Your truck probably doesn't have a floor mounted goose neck ball already. If that is correct, I wouldn't get a solution that requires such, like a GN extender or even the Reese Goosebox. While you may be very experienced at blind hook ups, there is an advantage in having the connection point 14" to 18" above the truck bed floor so it is easily visible from the drivers seat. So all normal fifth wheel hitches or the Andersen Ultimate have elevated connections.

An air ride or cushion hitch or pin box is your choice (even the Sidewinder has this option). Probably not needed for the pin weight your going to carry and pull with a gas F250.


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MFL wrote:

Having the V-10 tells me your truck does not have the fifth wheel prep. So you are likely looking for a rail mounted hitch. A good quality hitch for rail mount, is the B&W Patriot 16K. IMO, it is the best hitch you can get for the dollars spent. Look at it at e-trailer. They have a good price, and free shipping.

Jerry


I can't agree more. Jerry helped me with this decision a few months ago and I took his advice, buying the B&W Patriot 16K hitch. I have no complaints whatsoever. The hitch works great with my 34' Salem Hemisphere 5th wheel.

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I have a similar truck. 10 years ago when I bought my hitch, I was worried about the front cap on the trailer rubbing the back of the cab, so I bought an automatic slider. As a previous post pointed out, current fifth wheel design has mostly solved that issue, so if I were buying another hitch, I would NOT get the slider.

Like another post said, you may never buy another one, so don't go cheap.


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I had a Pullrite Superglide based on rave reviews. Personally I didn’t like it for one reason. You have to hook up straight on or it won’t work. You cannot connect to your Fiver at an angle. I really didn’t like the hitch, but many others do.

I switched to a B&W Companion and love it! I was in Kansas ( made in the USA) and stopped at the factory to buy it and have it installed. Only downside is when new they are a bear to get out of the hole! I had to have two young bucks pull it straight up to get it out of my truck. Love the hitch! B&W is the way to go...my two cents.


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Thank you all for your comments and advice. Since reaching out for help, I have done more research using links provided and now I feel a little more informed. Now what I would like to find out is the pros and cons of the different types of connections in use such as the slide bar, double jaw, single jaw, king pin adapter, rotating pin box, and the use of a lube plate or not.

In my first post, I mentioned about a pin box adapter a salesman was trying to explain to me. I now feel that what he was talking about was an Anderson hitch which uses an adapter on the king pin which changes it to a ball mount which then couples with a ball mounted on a stand in the back of the PU bed. Now that I know a little more, it seems like that type of hitch would negate the benefits of a conventional hitch. In my mind, a conventional would give more support because of a much larger contact area between truck and trailer, basically two flat plates sitting on each other making the trucks suspension more a part of controlling the overall ride.

Again I thank all for the suggestions but I hope this discussion doesn't turn into "my hitch is better then yours". I am looking for basic information about the different types of hitches and the pros and cons of each type. Brand names are ok as long as the type of connection is mentioned and it's benefits explained.

By the way, we are looking at new 5th wheels and it seems that all have the pivoting pin box so it looks like a slider type hitch won't be necessary for my short box. Please keep the comments coming. Thank you.

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Slide bar is the cheapest and worst kind of connection, too small of a contact patch with the king pin.

Dual jaws are better, more contact area. Some people say it is possible to hitch up but not really get the jaws fully closed around the pin and it can pull out. That is what I have used for 30 yrs. I hitch up with the jaws open and can hook up just barely 'kissing' the king pin against the hitch head. Back side of the jaws are painted white to clearly show they are closed. Never do a pull test and don't need to chock the wheels during hook up. Again been doing it this way for 30 yrs.

Single jaw that wraps around the king pin is probably the safest. But overall reliability and maintenance of the mechanism should be considered, some may be better than others.

Final note, all my experience is with 6.5 ft bed trucks and I do not use a sliding hitch. Never damaged a vehicle and never found a situation that couldn't be managed with a little extra jockeying back and forth. I feel that jack-knifing at 90 degrees is damaging to the trailer tires, bearings and suspension.

Regarding lube plate, I use them but they can also cause interference with proper hook up. Especially as they age. Dealers use fork lifts to more units around and they can destroy a lube plate in the blink of an eye.

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To bad your so far away I have 16k b&w sitting on the floor of the garage. Good hitch I had to go to a 20k with my new truck. Made the mistake on a pro series reese . What a clunker

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RobWNY wrote:

MFL wrote:

Having the V-10 tells me your truck does not have the fifth wheel prep. So you are likely looking for a rail mounted hitch. A good quality hitch for rail mount, is the B&W Patriot 16K. IMO, it is the best hitch you can get for the dollars spent. Look at it at e-trailer. They have a good price, and free shipping.

Jerry


I can't agree more. Jerry helped me with this decision a few months ago and I took his advice, buying the B&W Patriot 16K hitch. I have no complaints whatsoever. The hitch works great with my 34' Salem Hemisphere 5th wheel.


Hey Rob, thanks for the vote of confidence! Good to hear that you are happy with the Patriot.

To the OP...IMO, you will not need a slider, even without the rotating pin box. Your Ford has good distance ( about 41"s) from rear axle center, to back of cab. The Patriot is adjustable ahead/back, as well as up/down, to provide clearance within reason. You could not back your TT without paying attention, or you would hit at some point.

Jerry





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Well, not one of you mentioned the Hensley TrailerSaver hitches. We've had the BD3 model from the onset of getting our FW and wouldn't tow with anything else. It's an air ride hitch and easily removed. Costly? Yes, but for us well worth it.


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I went with the B&W and the Companion right from the start and never looked back. I think it is is the best FW hitch on the market.


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