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troubledwaters

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Posted: 07/10/18 02:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You are far better off putting most of the gear in the trailer, not in the truck. 100 lbs of gear put in the truck equals 100 lbs that goes 100% against the payload capacity of your truck. 100 lbs of gear loaded in the trailer, adds about 12 lbs to the tongue weight, which means only 12 lbs goes against the payload rating of your truck.

intheburbs

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Posted: 07/10/18 03:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I pulled a similar trailer to yours out to Yellowstone with my old half-ton Suburban. If I were you, I'd also install a new diff cover with cooling fins. IMHO the rear axle is the most worrisome component of the powertrain, My friend now owns my Suburban, it has 250k miles on the original engine and transmission, but it's on rear axle number 4. I broke it twice while on vacation pulling my trailer. The third replacement was because of improper break-in, under warranty. I'd already lost 4 days off my vacation; I didn't want to waste another day putting 500 unloaded miles on the axle before I started towing.

I'd also make sure I packed one of those infrared thermometers, to check the rear axle temperature during the trip. We actually did some traveling at night, so we wouldn't be fighting 100°+ temperatures, to help the axle.


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Posted: 07/11/18 03:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Your truck will pull a 6000lb TT just fine. You won't win any races uphill. You won't use 5th gear much or 6th gear at all unless going downhill. The chassis and components will handle it admirably.
My current work truck is identical to yours except it has 3.42s....I think? At sea level, it'll pull a 14klb flatbed to over freeway speeds before it's time to merge into traffic. 2 days ago, I pulled a 28' flatbed deckover weighing about the same or a little more than the camper you're talking about over 3 mtn passes in the Cascades and noone passed me because I was a slow moving vehicle.
Your gearing isn't ideal (unless I happen to have 3.08s too).
Trailer brakes and a wdh and leter rip!

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Posted: 07/11/18 05:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BIG difference between towing a flatbed and a travel trailer!
Barney


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Well, after much deliberation, I've decided to rent a 3500 diesel dually from Enterprise Truck rental and a Premier 34BHPR camper to avoid issues with my truck and have plenty of room on the trip. I posted a trip itinerary here:

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/29688528.cfm

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Posted: 12/30/18 01:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Good going and ask if you would consider test towing that trailer with your half ton before going...heck even after coming back

That would be the very best way to learn the differences between the different classes of pickups towing heavy (the exact same trailer)

And, please post back both experiences !!!


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1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
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I'd do it. With 350 or so ponies, you are not low on power. You have a 4.10 ratio in first. Compared to my C2500, 4.10 x 2.48 1,st gr8 vs a 4.10 1st and 3.08 gears. I'll take your set up from a drive train stand point.
Here local, I'd be licensed at 8000 lbs, less truck weight of 5500 or so....plenty of legal payload.
Gcwr, or max tow rating has no legal standing from an LEO standpoint.
If you want to rent a truck and trailer go for it. My swag, you'll be going up hills with your 1500 faster than I was in the fall of 92 with 3.73 geared TBI 454 with a pos 3 so th400 auto. I was pulling A 6500 lb TT. Total 14000. On 9/13/2001, I was going thru Yellowstone again, same trailer but a 6.5TD with a manual 5 sp. Down 50hp, but being a turbo I did not lose the HP to elevation. Truck did better, dispute being 4000+ lbs over gcwr per GM. The 88 was at gcwr.
As noted, some rigs do fine at or above ratings, MY 6.5 was one of those. The 88 @ 89 454 rigs, did fine st sea level on a level. Put them on a grade steeper than 10-12%, they literally would stall out and not go forward.
Choose your tow rig wisely. For what you want to do, you'll be fine with your 1500. You'll be in upper 40s to low 50s on grades. Choose a gear and speed that does not stress the drivetrain, enjoy the trip.
I'm actually trying to find a 3.42 geared 4.3 V6 for.pulling a 6-7000 lb trailer. I'm not worried about it.
Marty


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