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suehuck

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Hi,

We are new to both this forum and to RVing. We've had small (tiny) trailers in the past, but we're now retired and want to spend anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks a year in an RV spread out throughout the year.

We want to stick with a couple's trailer that has a queen bed set up all the time, a back bath, and one slide out. We also want a 6 cf fridge. We plan on spending some of that time in national parks so overall trailer length shouldn't exceed 22 or 23 feet.

We're considering the Coachman Freedom Express 192RBS or the Winnebago Micro Mini 2106FBS. They look very similar in layout - is there a significant difference in quality? The Winnie has smaller holding tanks but seems to cost more (based on RV Trader prices). Are there other couple's trailers to consider? We looked at Jayco but the holding tanks are the smallest of the bunch so we've ruled those out. Although the trailer doesn't need to be a true 4 season camper, we do plan on taking it down to warmer states for several weeks at a time when the snows fly in Colorado.

We've looked at Lance and some of the other well made trailers based on the west coast but they are too spendy for us.

The other thing we have to think about is the tow vehicle. Right now we have a 2014 Grand Jeep Cherokee with the tow package and a V8 engine. We also have an older vehicle we need to replace and that new vehicle will eventually become the tow vehicle for the trailer. But until we buy the new vehicle do you think it's safe to use the Jeep as the TV? I'm not concerned about payload, but since we live in the Rocky Mountains I am concerned about torque and wheel base.

Regarding the new tow vehicle to be purchased, we have to find a truck that will fit in our garage. (The builders put a bump out in the garage that severely limits what we can put in there.) We're narrowing our choices down to the Chevy Colorado and a Ford 150. To fit in the garage, the Ford 150 could only have the front cab with no extended cab and only 2 doors, so if the Chevy is hefty enough I'd prefer to buy it. But it's obviously more important to be able to safely pull the trailer through the mountains so if the Ford 150 is advised, we'll just put up with having only the front seat.

I've lurked on this site for a while and have learned quite a bit. I know that dealer reliability is critical, so if you all can either suggest a dealer on the front range or let me know how to find one I would greatly appreciate it. I've done some basic google searches but I'd really value personal experience.

Thanks for your help! We newbies so all advice is welcome.

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Welcome to the Forum....
Might also want to look at the Nash line (Northwood Manufacturing) They are decent quality and probably available in your area.

Something like this: Nash 23D.

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Thanks for the suggestion on the Nash. I just took a look and the finish looks luxurious, but the trailer is almost 26' long.

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I’m happy with my Winnebago. Along with Airstream there is a lot in that name.


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What is the length of the garage available? Good chance you can select a bigger cab and make it fit. The RegCab long bed F150 is 228" long. The SuperCrew 5.5' bed is only 232".

I would definetly go 1/2 ton truck over a midsize. The midsize isn't much smaller and you can buy a 1/2 ton with better suspension for towing.

The V8 in the jeep should be enough power unless you get into extreme altitudes.

I would suggest one of the eco-boost (turbo) engine options if you will spend a lot of time in Colorado. Naturally Aspirated engines lose 3-4% of power for every 1000ft above sea level due to thin air, so get up above 10,000ft and you are down by 30-40%. A turbo will compensate by pressurizing the incoming air so you lose very little power at altitude.


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Our garage is 220" (if the bump out wasn't there it would be 238"). Good to know about the turbo engines. We will spend a fair amount of time at altitude so it sounds like a turbo engine will be a wise investment.

I never, ever thought about the bump out when we bought the place. Our options are limited to a) buying the half ton we want (one with at least a crew cab) but walking several blocks to park it and that isn't a great option in February, b) finding a half ton that will fit, so no crew or extended cab, c) buying a mid-sized truck, but I don't think it will have the heft we need in the mountains, or d) just use the Jeep for towing, but DH really wants a truck.

I could strangle the builders but that's another story.....

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The downside for Jeep is that it has very short wheelbase which makes it prone to sway -- unless you are getting a short trailer too.

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The best half ton truck you can buy is the F150 with 3.5 Ecoboost (comes with the 10 speed transmission), and Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP). Best tow vehicle made in the 1/2 ton. If buying new it will have to be ordered and be pricey but well worth it. If buying used, you will never find one with the HDPP.

This all won't be necessary for a 23-foot trailer, but if you ever plan on going bigger (like 28-feet), it would be wise to buy the truck you will need later, now; rather then buying something now, that doesn't work later.

P.S. - I camp in all kinds of NP, SP, Private parks, etc. and never had a problem fitting in with 25-feet and 28-feet trailers.

* This post was edited 07/10/18 10:31am by troubledwaters *

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For the trailer size you are talking about, ANY recent V8 or turbo boosted half ton pickup and many SUVs, including your Jeep Grand Cherokee would be just fine. The VERY HIGHEST pass in Colorado isn't going to reduce the HP enough to cause any issues at those weights. A weight distributing hitch with good sway control will be just what the doctor ordered. I also think the Chevy Colorado would be fine. I would certainly do it. One consideration for mountain towing, the V8 engines will likely provide more engine braking on those long descents.


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Welcome to the forum, I have a 192RBS, which I bought in March 2017. It has more than 20k miles, first trip was from Colorado to San Diego, up the west coast to Fairbanks, AK. and return to Colorado. The only issues I had were operator errors. RV 4 Seasons in Wheatridge fixed a couple of minor issues, i.e. a couple of stapled panels that had worked loose, some minor chalking. My wife & I love the floorplan.

I've had no problems towing with my 2003 Toyota Tundra, which included a trip down and return up "The Hill" to Bella Coola, BC. The Hill is about 35 miles of gravel road which has 8% to 12% grades. I have a friend that tows a ± 20' Coleman with her Jeep Cherokee and has not reported any problems. Definitively invest in a good WD hitch with sway control.

Whatever TT you chose, make sure you like the floorplan.

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