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F4Jock

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Posted: 07/12/18 05:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Look all. Just because the guy doesn't want to take our advice doesn't warrant this kind of snark. I disagree with him but still wish him well with his mods and hope they work. I wouldn't do them but I'm quite sure he is an adult and those free to do whatever he feels like doing. He asked for advice, we gave it. He chose not to take it. His choice. No reason for us to be upset.

* This post was edited 07/12/18 06:37am by F4Jock *


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Jsejmz09 wrote:

For the record it’s a Country Band and we travel Nation wide and are well known. No my mind wasn’t made up I asked for ides. The fuel pump has a kill switch . I am not young or stupid as most of you want to imply. You guys need to chill out. It’s in and it works. Thanks for all hel
End of discussion. Ps I am deleting my profile. Have a great day

Nah, don't let all this run you off. I'm anxious to see the project progress. It would help everyone if we had more people trying to have an "Onan Option". Keep trying and if nothing else, at least message me and show me what you've done and how's it is coming along. good luck with it all.

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Jsejmz09/Gregory,
Please, don't let a couple of stubborn, set-in-their-way people drive you away from this forum. As with any public forum, you have to learn to ignore, weed out some posts, and enjoy the forum for the other good, helpful you get from open minded people that truly want to help, and learn.

Any time I post a topic of ANY nature on here, I fully expect to get several that will find some way to belittle what I'm asking or talking about, insult, etc. I just (try to) ignore those posts and do not respond to them. Thats all you can do. Instead, I focus my responses, posts on those that are truly wanting to help, or want to learn from what I'm doing. Its what you have to do with any public discussion forum. Most expecially with Class A RV folks, you're going to get a lot of 'senior' RV owners, and reality is, the older we get, the more 'set in our ways' we get.

I think you'll find also, that people can be much more abrasive, and just plain 'mean' on an internet forum than they are in real life. I bet if you met most of these people in person at a campground....The conversation with them would be entirely different, and much more peaceful (over a few cold ones, haha). [emoticon]

For the sake of the folks like me, and others on here that expressed interest, and respect in what you're doing....Stick around, man. If you want to unsubscribe from this particular thread, maybe even ask the moderators to lock it, OK, that may be a good idea. But, stick around, you're going to find there are a lot of really nice people on here that can be really helpful (and entertaining, haha).

Personally, I have a lot of respect for what you're doing, trying to find a way to make it work, without having to spend several thousand on a new Onan. I personally have never had any trouble out of my Onan and am totally happy with it, after 6 years and several hundred hours of rock solid, reliable use. But, I still think its cool that you are finding a way to make it work without having to spend big $$ on a new Onan. Please keep us posted on this project, even if you have to start a new thread to do it. [emoticon]


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willald wrote:

Jsejmz09/Gregory,
Please, don't let a couple of stubborn, set-in-their-way people drive you away from this forum. As with any public forum, you have to learn to ignore, weed out some posts, and enjoy the forum for the other good, helpful you get from open minded people that truly want to help, and learn.

Any time I post a topic of ANY nature on here, I fully expect to get several that will find some way to belittle what I'm asking or talking about, insult, etc. I just (try to) ignore those posts and do not respond to them. Thats all you can do. Instead, I focus my responses, posts on those that are truly wanting to help, or want to learn from what I'm doing. Its what you have to do with any public discussion forum. Most expecially with Class A RV folks, you're going to get a lot of 'senior' RV owners, and reality is, the older we get, the more 'set in our ways' we get.

I think you'll find also, that people can be much more abrasive, and just plain 'mean' on an internet forum than they are in real life. I bet if you met most of these people in person at a campground....The conversation with them would be entirely different, and much more peaceful (over a few cold ones, haha). [emoticon]

For the sake of the folks like me, and others on here that expressed interest, and respect in what you're doing....Stick around, man. If you want to unsubscribe from this particular thread, maybe even ask the moderators to lock it, OK, that may be a good idea. But, stick around, you're going to find there are a lot of really nice people on here that can be really helpful (and entertaining, haha).

Personally, I have a lot of respect for what you're doing, trying to find a way to make it work, without having to spend several thousand on a new Onan. I personally have never had any trouble out of my Onan and am totally happy with it, after 6 years and several hundred hours of rock solid, reliable use. But, I still think its cool that you are finding a way to make it work without having to spend big $$ on a new Onan. Please keep us posted on this project, even if you have to start a new thread to do it. [emoticon]


x2 - Ditto ^^^
I too am interested in this project and look forward to seeing some updates.

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Posted: 07/12/18 01:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You know, a lot of people seem to get keyboard mussels on their replies.
Replacing an Onan generator is quite expensive, and it seems you may have hit on a way to minimize that expense. If the u-tube video is of your install, it is fairly quite. I would be interested in knowing more about it. I know that there a number of older MHs that the generator has really died and there is no replacement available. A safe, quite, inexpensive alternative would be of interest to many. If you leave, you leave, don't let others chase you off. If you are with a Band, you should be use to hecklers.


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Wildmanbaker thank you and you are right. I forgot that even on a forum of great people, there has to be a few, well you know. So, I asked for ideas, and the one general response was 'DON'T Do IT'. Of course that made me work all the harder. I've consulted race car builders, because they use electric fuel pumps, and lawn mower and generator repairmen, a HVAC guy. So lets be honest, I don't have the money to spend $4000.00 to make it factory approved. So I had to find a way. It's been a long process but it works and it is safe.

First the compartment on my MH is surrounded on 3 sides by insulated metal with a open bottom. I removed the overhead gas tank on the generator for top clearance. Then I placed a electric fuel pump that only runs when the generator is started by wiring in a 110vac to 12dc. The problem there is never run it out of gas, lol. But since it feeds off my main tank I don't see a problem. Next was heat and how to get rid of it. The generator has a bottom exhaust fan to expel it's heat build up inside its electric generator so that's good. But, it was generating a lot of heat from just the engine running. So, i placed two vents a 12x12 and a 8x8 in the compartment door. I then mounted a fan in the bottom of the open compartment drawing air down, (and yes thru the vents) to cool the engine and compartment.

Is it a factory installed Onan, well no. May it break, My onan did so I suppose this can too. My total cost of the project is right at 525.00 so I can replace it 10 times before I come to the cost of an onan. Is it loud, Yes but not Harley loud.

This is a 1999 MH that is being used by 4 guys on the road 3-4 days a week. Mostly on shore power. But if needed we now have a emergency backup. It is not used hours at a time more like minutes going down the road to power the microwave. So with all that being said I will put together a video and show you what I did. Is it Certified Safe by UL or whatever, No but neither is life. Thanks all. If you want specific information or whatever let me know.





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Jsejmz09 wrote:

Wildmanbaker thank you and you are right. I forgot that even on a forum of great people, there has to be a few, well you know. So, I asked for ideas, and the one general response was 'DON'T Do IT'. Of course that made me work all the harder. I've consulted race car builders, because they use electric fuel pumps, and lawn mower and generator repairmen, a HVAC guy. So lets be honest, I don't have the money to spend $4000.00 to make it factory approved. So I had to find a way. It's been a long process but it works and it is safe.

First the compartment on my MH is surrounded on 3 sides by insulated metal with a open bottom. I removed the overhead gas tank on the generator for top clearance. Then I placed a electric fuel pump that only runs when the generator is started by wiring in a 110vac to 12dc. The problem there is never run it out of gas, lol. But since it feeds off my main tank I don't see a problem. Next was heat and how to get rid of it. The generator has a bottom exhaust fan to expel it's heat build up inside its electric generator so that's good. But, it was generating a lot of heat from just the engine running. So, i placed two vents a 12x12 and a 8x8 in the compartment door. I then mounted a fan in the bottom of the open compartment drawing air down, (and yes thru the vents) to cool the engine and compartment.

Is it a factory installed Onan, well no. May it break, My onan did so I suppose this can too. My total cost of the project is right at 525.00 so I can replace it 10 times before I come to the cost of an onan. Is it loud, Yes but not Harley loud.

This is a 1999 MH that is being used by 4 guys on the road 3-4 days a week. Mostly on shore power. But if needed we now have a emergency backup. It is not used hours at a time more like minutes going down the road to power the microwave. So with all that being said I will put together a video and show you what I did. Is it Certified Safe by UL or whatever, No but neither is life. Thanks all. If you want specific information or whatever let me know.


Curious. How noisy vs the Onan?

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It's definitely louder than the Onan, especially inside. I'm sure it would not be real popular in a nice quiet campground.

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Jsejmz09 wrote:

...........I forgot that even on a forum of great people, there has to be a few, well you know.


Hey if someone's a Jerk, just click on their name (to the left of their post) and block them. That's what I do. I don't have any need for their BS.

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I'd add some device that kills the pump if the temp gets too high in the compartment.

Maybe: Sensor

Pushing air in would be better than pulling air out. That way your fan would not run in hot air.

I'd worry about the needle and seat in the carb being overpowered by the pump causing a rich mixture or worse a carb overflow while running. That generator would have been gravity feed from the factory. Your fuel pump pressure needs to be next to nothing.

More vent are not always better. It's all about air flow.

PS: I blocked two more members due to their reply's to you on this thread. I think that makes an even ten.

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Jsejmz09 wrote:

It's definitely louder than the Onan, especially inside. I'm sure it would not be real popular in a nice quiet campground.


Well if it passes the longevity test and you have the internal clearance maybe you could try lining the compartment with some of the dual foil-sided engine compartment insulation bats that are available. Another question. Did you have tube rails on yours that had to be removed or did you leave them on?

* This post was edited 07/14/18 07:27am by F4Jock *

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