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Eyetattoo
Explorer
Explorer
Looking to put 4 6volt Trojan batteries in out 5th Wheel. I’m looking to the T105, T125 and T145. What would all of you suggest? Thanks!
2015 2500HD Duramax LTZ Crew Cab
2005 26' Attitude Toy Hauler
2007 GSXR600
2004 YFZ450
2006 TRX90
2013 Raptor 90
2007 Raptor 350

Is it time to camp yet?!
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laknox
Nomad
Nomad
If you want some real-world info on building a Li battery bank, check out my cousin's blog, where they've been gutting and rebuilding a '64 GM bus. Will be using an entire Nissan Leaf Lizard battery (plus 1 extra module) to power it, with 8 435w panels on the roof. URL is http://www.beginningfromthismorning.com/. Fascinating stuff. Had I a spare grand to play with, I'd build a smallish battery, with only 8 modules, paired into 12v (actually 14.8v) batteries, then paralled. Gives almost 500 ah capacity with a total weight of the batteries right at 67 lbs, or about the same weight of a single T105 6v. 🙂

Lyle
2022 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Denali Crew Cab 4x4 Duramax
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2017 KZ Durango 1500 D277RLT
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allen8106
Explorer
Explorer
Eyetattoo wrote:
Looking to put 4 6volt Trojan batteries in out 5th Wheel. I’m looking to the T105, T125 and T145. What would all of you suggest? Thanks!


I would suggest Crown batteries rather than Trojan.
2010 Eagle Super Lite 315RLDS
2018 GMC Sierra 3500HD 6.6L Duramax

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pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Hi,

At -20 c (-4 f) Li jars can not be charged. Doing so apparently destroys them. I have used my RV at at -37 c (-34 f), and every year it gets well below -20 c.

Eyetattoo wrote:
Why is cold camping bad for Li batteries and how cold is considered cold?
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Eyetattoo
Explorer
Explorer
pianotuna wrote:
By all means go LI if you can afford it. So long as you NEVER camp in cold weather.

The LI main advantage is they love being charged to 90% and do not get damaged with progressive capacity loss from doing so. They can be repeatedly discharged to 20%, again without damage.
Why is cold camping bad for Li batteries and how cold is considered cold?
2015 2500HD Duramax LTZ Crew Cab
2005 26' Attitude Toy Hauler
2007 GSXR600
2004 YFZ450
2006 TRX90
2013 Raptor 90
2007 Raptor 350

Is it time to camp yet?!

theoldwizard1
Explorer
Explorer
One of the big claims to fame about LiFePO4 batteries is that they have a much longer life (discharge/charge cycles). Their claim is that this factor alone actually gives them a cost ADVANTAGE of lead-acid.

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
By all means go LI if you can afford it. So long as you NEVER camp in cold weather.

The LI main advantage is they love being charged to 90% and do not get damaged with progressive capacity loss from doing so. They can be repeatedly discharged to 20%, again without damage.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

2oldman
Explorer
Explorer
Hard to say if it's worth it, but for all around performance and light weight, Lithiums are the man.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

Eyetattoo
Explorer
Explorer
I can get the 125s for $10 more than the 105s. Also got a suggestion to look at the LiFePO4 batteries. A lot more so wondering if it's worth it for a boondocker?
2015 2500HD Duramax LTZ Crew Cab
2005 26' Attitude Toy Hauler
2007 GSXR600
2004 YFZ450
2006 TRX90
2013 Raptor 90
2007 Raptor 350

Is it time to camp yet?!

kopy_kat
Explorer
Explorer
My Interstate 6 volts are about 5+ years old and still going strong. I hook up a single solar panel when in storage and all winter...check the water level every few months...very happy for the price!
2013 Flagstaff 8528ikws---"Camp MiMiPaPa"

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Trackrig makes a very good point. If you don't boondock you don't need a lot of extra battery bank.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Trackrig
Explorer II
Explorer II
I have the T125s, been using them for six years and they've done well. But, I must say you'll pay like 25% more for them over the T100s, but only get about 10% more amp hours. If you boondock a lot, it's probably worth it, but not if you spend most of your time plugged in.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

theoldwizard1
Explorer
Explorer
The T125 and T145 hold a little bit more energy, but you will pay a lot for it ! T105 are more common and you will probably get them at a much better price.

If you really want to save a few $$$, get Interstate GC2 at Costco or Duracell GC2 at Sams Club. They hold a bit less energy, but are much more "cost effective" ($$$/A-Hr @ 20Hr rate)

You pay a lot of extra $$ for T105-AGM and lose a bit of capacity.

Ed_Gee
Explorer
Explorer
Yes, what both Pianotuna and 2oldman said!
Ed - on the Central Oregon coast
2018 Winnebago Fuse 23A
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2oldman
Explorer
Explorer
I'd like to see you try the AGMs. So nice to not have to water the darn things.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman