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sola basic adjustment pot

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Hi,

Does anyone know where I can find the voltage adjustment for "cut in" on the Sola Basic 4000?
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.
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pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Hi Almot,

Yes, but buck has never been an issue in Canada or USA.

1st layer of boost at 110 is 10% to 121 (no load)
2nd layer of boost at 100 is 20% to 121 (no load)
3rd layer of boost at 90 is still only 20% to 109 (no load)

I'm not sure why they bothered with the 3rd layer since it appears to do the same thing as the 2nd layer. It definitely does happen. i.e. the meter reading does rise at 90 volts of input.

I'm tempted to rent a variac and play all day long figuring out boost numbers from an input of 121 right down to 85.

The "load" when testing was a 300 watt incandescent bulb. Pure resistive load.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
Thanks for the link, Don.

So, if this single pot is responsible for trigger voltage - and then relays direct it to +20%, +10% or -10% coil, - it means your buck point has also moved 2V up now, to 137V.

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
I came across a nice video that explains how boost/buck and autoformers work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKasA4HxaGY

The explanation comes in the first 3 minutes.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
MrWizard has that right (as usual). The percentage of boost is not adjustable and is "hardwired" into the autotransformer. There are three "taps" for boost. And one tap for buck.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Almot,

The trigger set points were changed. They are now approximately 112, 102, and 92 volts. I don't have access to a variac or isolation transformer to double check the numbers. They may be higher than what is listed above--but they are certainly not lower.

The boost deferential, which a percentage, remains unchanged.

From the OEM literature 110-->121, or 10%. But that would be with no load.

In real life as load increases the input voltage sags more and more while the boosted voltage is based on that 10%. So, at 106 volts input volts, boost is 10% giving about 117 volts inside the RV.

Again in "real life" with the same load, boosted voltage works out to 117 with the autoformer, and 102 volts without the autoformer.

The real "power" difference is about 1950 watts with booster @ 117 volts, and about 1800 watts without boost at 102 volts.

The above numbers were take while plugged into a 30 amp service with 50 feet of #10 wire (two cords daisy chained).
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

MrWizard
Moderator
Moderator
i think the amount of boost is built in
it is set by the turns in the secondary winding, which is selected by the relay
the pot adjusts the set point where the relay (boost) comes into play
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
This humble box is looking better and better.

I am a little confused. Did you increase the boost at 100V to 17-23 depending on the load? Or did you change the trigger point from 100 to 102 while leaving the boost at 14-20 as before?

MrWizard
Moderator
Moderator
congrats.. you got it adjusted, all setup now
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

....

Connected using T-Mobile Home internet and Visible Phone service
1997 F53 Bounder 36s

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Hi all,

Well, there is exactly ONE pot. It has been tweaked and I'm using it to get full power from my electric heaters.

I'm running 2860 watts @ 117 volts. Without the autoformer that would have dropped to about 102 volts. I'm plugged into a 30 amp circuit at my brother's cottage which has chronically low voltage. It is just too far from the transformer.

The pot is a tiny blue one next to an led. It can be adjusted without any trouble at all.

Voltage with 354 watts of load was 114. After the tweak that was enough to boost voltage to 125. As I loaded it down voltage sagged to the 117 volt level. I'm pleased to say the least!

Input voltage testing was done with a variac for resetting the trigger voltage. The OEM numbers had not changed.

I found out that at 75 volts the Sola clicks out to protect itself.

I did not try the high voltage buck.

I do have the Magnum remote set at a maximum of 24 amps.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I did not hear back from Sola.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

MEXICOWANDERER
Explorer
Explorer
There is........

Always the certainty of removing the cover and taking four or five images of the loaded circuit board, then bring the images here.

Can't hurt, right?

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
Remember that Ecowise must be mounted vertically, due to cooling fins in the back. Also, - noise.

I'm curious how it will end with ISB support people.

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
Hi Almot,

The ecowise is nicer than the Sola basic and does both boost and buck--keeping the voltage pretty much at 120. I would have purchased one of those had I known about it.

http://www.technowisegroup.com/PDF/ECOWISE/ECOWISE_INGLES_BAJA.pdf

and

http://ecowise.mx/productos.html
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

time2roll
Explorer II
Explorer II
Too bad SolaBasic aims for 120 instead of the 127 that is standard in MX.

Surprised they think 135 is high enough to buck.
127 +- 10% is 114 to 139.

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
I recall in those previous threads people that mentioned the adjustment pot, never reported what they ended up with, and didn't respond to requests to clarify. Might not exist.

There is another household autoformer of this wattage in Mexico: 39 A. More than double the cost of ISB 4, though cheaper than (remotely) comparable Hughes autoformer and possibly better because Hughes doesn't buck. Sketchy description on company website, but "looks" like continuous correction. Locals are saying it's very loud.