Nov-12-2018 05:46 AM
Nov-17-2018 03:12 AM
theoldwizard1 wrote:Oldwizard is dead on here. Disregard all the talk about QAM, ATSC, and satellite.
Second, modern digital TV can NOT get "fuzzy" pictures UNLESS there is something between the source of the signal and the TV that is analog. Pixelation yes, fuzzy, no.
Nov-13-2018 03:37 PM
wa8yxm wrote:
I agree with economics but my point is both cable and sat are overpriced and not being pleased with one bill for the house the cable companies encrypt so you have to pay more more more for each added TV.
wa8yxm wrote:
But the Sat/Cable business is all about releiving you of your money...
Nov-13-2018 03:02 PM
rk911 wrote:
economics 101...if more people cut the cord on satellite and cable prices will come down or the service will disappear. it's not greed...it's business.
as for campground cable...if I recall correctly the law that required the OTA stations to move to digital from analog permitted but did not require cable providers to scramble their signals. a set-top decoder box was required to view cable in the few parks and campgrounds that did offer scrambled cable. one park in Pennsylvania started out with about 2-dozen "loaner" boxes for her transient guests but the manager admitted to me that over time they were either returned damaged or not at all so she dropped her cable service. that was a major reason we opted for the Winegard Trav'ler dish option when we bought new in 2015.
Nov-13-2018 07:25 AM
Nov-13-2018 06:42 AM
theoldwizard1 wrote:rk911 wrote:
untrue. the FCC still permits low power analog stations. we run in to them every now and then on the road and even have a few here at home.
Then maybe you should correct Wikipedia.
Nov-13-2018 06:40 AM
wa8yxm wrote:
Correction on digital cable.
SOME systems went all encrypted. Some did not. But I agree the reason for encryption is greed. if you have more than one TV they can charge you more for each additional Set Top Box. I once got in trouble for saying all the cable/Sat companies were crooked.. Well. they are. Charging 100/month or more in many cases for what I get for FREE using my Winegard Sensar.
Nov-13-2018 05:31 AM
Nov-13-2018 04:27 AM
wa8yxm wrote:
Cable quality. Cables that are good at VHF-LOW BAND (2,3,4,5,6) (Actually that is Low a and Low b if I recall correctly) all under 150 MHZ. may not be as good at 7-13 (VHF HIGH) or UHF (13 and up)
Of course today channel 2 may well be using carrier 7 or even 20
(In Detroit channel 2 actually is broadcasting on 7 and 7 on 41. where I am now 7 really is 7 on broadcast)...
Nov-13-2018 04:27 AM
wa8yxm wrote:
Cable quality. Cables that are good at VHF-LOW BAND (2,3,4,5,6) (Actually that is Low a and Low b if I recall correctly) all under 150 MHZ. may not be as good at 7-13 (VHF HIGH) or UHF (13 and up)
Of course today channel 2 may well be using carrier 7 or even 20
(In Detroit channel 2 actually is broadcasting on 7 and 7 on 41. where I am now 7 really is 7 on broadcast)...
Nov-13-2018 04:22 AM
rk911 wrote:
untrue. the FCC still permits low power analog stations. we run in to them every now and then on the road and even have a few here at home.
Wikipedia wrote:
Low-power stations, Class A stations and translators were required to shut down by 2015.
rk911 wrote:theoldwizard1 wrote:
...Very few if any cable companies send out an analog signal...Most (all?) cable signals are digital. They may or may not be scrambled.
that's not been our experience. virtually all of the campgrounds and parks we've been to that offer cable have "analog" cable.
Nov-13-2018 04:14 AM
wa8yxm wrote:
as losses go up. picture quality goes down
Nov-12-2018 04:38 PM
Nov-12-2018 02:27 PM
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Nov-12-2018 02:12 PM
theoldwizard1 wrote:
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There are no "over-the-air" (OTA) analog (NTSC) signals being broadcast since 2009.
theoldwizard1 wrote:
...Very few if any cable companies send out an analog signal...Most (all?) cable signals are digital. They may or may not be scrambled.