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1492

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Posted: 01/01/19 11:44pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator


Round trip cruise to same U.S. port is permitted by foreign flag ships. But won't sell between two U.S. cities without the 'distant' foreign port clause as they would get fined by U.S.

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Posted: 01/02/19 03:44am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

On a cargo ship as a passenger at times can be great. Food is great,possible tour of the ship,back in the day you could even get up into the bridge,may not be possible now due to security. It just depends on the ship line.

Hope she gets better.


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1492 wrote:

Dutch_12078 wrote:

...they're required to stop at a foreign port after leaving a US port before they can enter another US port.

I believe the foreign port cannot be in North America, which would exclude both Canada and Mexico as a stop, before arriving in U.S. Mainland?


No, a stop in Canada does qualify as we have many Alaskan cruise ships stop off here in Victoria for that very reason. They depart from Seattle and stop at either Vancouver or Victoria before heading north. I assume they do the same on the return.
This is great for us as it pumps millions of dollars into our local economy. Sometimes we have three or four gigantic cruise ships tied up at the same time. I think we have about 250 ships a year coming in.


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Well, we contacted the port agent in Hilo, no cargo line offers this here, cruise lines are booked, so she going to be staying for the next 3 weeks until she can fly. Thanks for the help everyone!


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Posted: 01/02/19 03:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What about a military ship? Do they have any provisions for this type of thing?


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Thought I already posted this. Had an uncle who traveled in circles. I do not know if clockwise or counterclockwise but the circle included Hawaii. California. Washington Oregon and Alaska.. He was a Captain on a Cunard Cargo ship.

Most of them can take a limited number of passengers. Cheaper than a cruse ship. but none of the frills (Like a casino) not as fancy food and so on.

But that is the only practical way to do it.. By boat/ship.

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No, a stop in Canada does qualify as we have many Alaskan cruise ships stop off here in Victoria for that very reason. They depart from Seattle and stop at either Vancouver or Victoria before heading north. I assume they do the same on the return.
This is great for us as it pumps millions of dollars into our local economy. Sometimes we have three or four gigantic cruise ships tied up at the same time. I think we have about 250 ships a year coming in.

I think what you are referring to is foreign flagged cruise ships making a return voyage back to the same port, which is permitted if it stops at any foreign port (Vancouver), allowed under PVSA regulations.

The restriction applies for "one-way" travel between two different U.S. ports, which must include a 'distant' foreign port not in North America? The exact scenario if traveling between Hawaii and U.S. Mainland?



The Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA), however,

  • does not prohibit foreign-flagged ships departing from and returning to the same U.S. port, provided the ship visits any foreign port;

  • does not prohibit foreign-flagged ships departing from a U.S. port, visiting a distant foreign port, and then continuing to a second U.S. port. However, in order to embark in a U.S. port and disembark in a second U.S. port, the vessel must visit a distant foreign port outside of North America (Central America, Bermuda. the Bahamas, and all of the Caribbean except Aruba, Bonaire, and CuraƧao, count as part of North America);


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colliehauler wrote:

Possibly a cruise line might have a room?
X-2, I didn't look very hard, but did find this; https://www.princess.com/learn/cruise-destinations/hawaii-cruises/


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Posted: 01/04/19 07:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would check with another doctor . As a SCUBA instructor I have never heard of a "No Fly " for that length of time !

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Posted: 01/04/19 07:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I dunno, but three weeks stuck in Hawaii at this time of year is surely a horrible, horrible thing to have to do.





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