โFeb-11-2019 12:45 PM
โFeb-15-2019 08:10 AM
Bionic Man wrote:
LOL. I seriously doubt that there is much if any cross shopping between an F150 and a F350. They are significantly different vehicles with that fill different needs.
And to say that it won't sell because this site hasn't shown much interest is laughable. I would agree that it doesn't fit the needs of most here that want/need to tow heavy. But it, like all the 3.0's are designed for a positive driving experience for the non-rv towing market - which is HUGE compared to the little niche here.
There is a reason that the half ton trucks are consistently the three best selling vehicles in the US. And it has very little to do with them being a towing monster.
โFeb-15-2019 07:59 AM
parker.rowe wrote:patperry2766 wrote:
I was playing on the Ford website and here's my take. If I was doing it right, first off you can't get the diesel in anything less than the Lariat package which starts at $46K. Then the diesel option is another $4K.
So without adding another option, your looking at MSRP of close to $50 for a 2WD SuperCrew. That is getting pretty darn close to a F250/350 territory. A buddy of mine just got a 2019 F-250 Lariat 4x4 with the 6.2L pretty loaded out for under $50 this month.
It also appears that the biggest engine you can get in the XLT package is the 5.0L V-8 and you have to be Lariat of above to get the 3.5L EcoBoost.
While I'm sure they will sell some, they're pretty proud of them so they're gonna have to start discounting them if they really want to sell more than a handful
You can get the ecoboost 3.5 all the way down to the XL trim, even with the HDPP.
I've priced it out a few times. ๐
You are correct about the diesel though. No baby diesel work trucks allowed, I guess. Unless dodge still sells the tradesman ecodiesel.
Here is was kills me when I am pricing out tow vehicles:
XL F150 CC 4wd, with eco3.5 and HDPP as only options $44,800
XL F350 CC 4wd SRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $42,200
XL F350 CC 4wd DRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $43,800
All work trucks, no frills. Just set up to tow well. This is why I am excited about the new HD gas engines. I don't need a big diesel for what I tow, and you can get a similar 250/350 class truck for the same or less money vs a half ton.
โFeb-14-2019 09:18 AM
โFeb-14-2019 08:48 AM
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โFeb-14-2019 07:19 AM
Groover wrote:goducks10 wrote:romore wrote:
It is built to bring the fleet fuel enomy numbers up, not for towing.
Depends on what you're towing. 10,000+ lb tow rating. That would be good for a decent size ultra light TT.
The test reports that I have seen show the 3.0 diesel performing quite well with trailers up to 10,000lbs. But still not as well as the much less expensive 3.5l Ecoboost.
From what I read you just have to really want one to justify paying for it and from the lack of responses here it seems that not many want one that badly.
โFeb-14-2019 07:09 AM
mich800 wrote:Lantley wrote:parker.rowe wrote:patperry2766 wrote:
I was playing on the Ford website and here's my take. If I was doing it right, first off you can't get the diesel in anything less than the Lariat package which starts at $46K. Then the diesel option is another $4K.
So without adding another option, your looking at MSRP of close to $50 for a 2WD SuperCrew. That is getting pretty darn close to a F250/350 territory. A buddy of mine just got a 2019 F-250 Lariat 4x4 with the 6.2L pretty loaded out for under $50 this month.
It also appears that the biggest engine you can get in the XLT package is the 5.0L V-8 and you have to be Lariat of above to get the 3.5L EcoBoost.
While I'm sure they will sell some, they're pretty proud of them so they're gonna have to start discounting them if they really want to sell more than a handful
You can get the ecoboost 3.5 all the way down to the XL trim, even with the HDPP.
I've priced it out a few times. ๐
You are correct about the diesel though. No baby diesel work trucks allowed, I guess. Unless dodge still sells the tradesman ecodiesel.
Here is was kills me when I am pricing out tow vehicles:
XL F150 CC 4wd, with eco3.5 and HDPP as only options $44,800
XL F350 CC 4wd SRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $42,200
XL F350 CC 4wd DRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $43,800
All work trucks, no frills. Just set up to tow well. This is why I am excited about the new HD gas engines. I don't need a big diesel for what I tow, and you can get a similar 250/350 class truck for the same or less money vs a half ton.
This ^^^^^ should be an eye opener for all. Especially those driving under rated trucks or those wishing they had more truck.
The prices are the same!
An F150 is the same price as a F350 Dually!:h Go Figure.
Buying the right truck is more a matter of knowledge and knowing what truck you want and need vs. cost and finances.
A similarly equipped truck will be the same price across all platforms.
Yes I know not exactly the same price but close enough!
The diesel will most likely trickle down to the lower trim levels. It is not uncommon to only option new tech in the higher trim levels to accelerate recoupment of development costs. And comparing the price for different categories of vehicles is flawed logic. You are assuming the purchase criteria for both categories is the same.
โFeb-14-2019 06:13 AM
Lantley wrote:parker.rowe wrote:patperry2766 wrote:
I was playing on the Ford website and here's my take. If I was doing it right, first off you can't get the diesel in anything less than the Lariat package which starts at $46K. Then the diesel option is another $4K.
So without adding another option, your looking at MSRP of close to $50 for a 2WD SuperCrew. That is getting pretty darn close to a F250/350 territory. A buddy of mine just got a 2019 F-250 Lariat 4x4 with the 6.2L pretty loaded out for under $50 this month.
It also appears that the biggest engine you can get in the XLT package is the 5.0L V-8 and you have to be Lariat of above to get the 3.5L EcoBoost.
While I'm sure they will sell some, they're pretty proud of them so they're gonna have to start discounting them if they really want to sell more than a handful
You can get the ecoboost 3.5 all the way down to the XL trim, even with the HDPP.
I've priced it out a few times. ๐
You are correct about the diesel though. No baby diesel work trucks allowed, I guess. Unless dodge still sells the tradesman ecodiesel.
Here is was kills me when I am pricing out tow vehicles:
XL F150 CC 4wd, with eco3.5 and HDPP as only options $44,800
XL F350 CC 4wd SRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $42,200
XL F350 CC 4wd DRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $43,800
All work trucks, no frills. Just set up to tow well. This is why I am excited about the new HD gas engines. I don't need a big diesel for what I tow, and you can get a similar 250/350 class truck for the same or less money vs a half ton.
This ^^^^^ should be an eye opener for all. Especially those driving under rated trucks or those wishing they had more truck.
The prices are the same!
An F150 is the same price as a F350 Dually!:h Go Figure.
Buying the right truck is more a matter of knowledge and knowing what truck you want and need vs. cost and finances.
A similarly equipped truck will be the same price across all platforms.
Yes I know not exactly the same price but close enough!
โFeb-14-2019 04:52 AM
goducks10 wrote:romore wrote:
It is built to bring the fleet fuel enomy numbers up, not for towing.
Depends on what you're towing. 10,000+ lb tow rating. That would be good for a decent size ultra light TT.
โFeb-14-2019 04:47 AM
parker.rowe wrote:patperry2766 wrote:
I was playing on the Ford website and here's my take. If I was doing it right, first off you can't get the diesel in anything less than the Lariat package which starts at $46K. Then the diesel option is another $4K.
So without adding another option, your looking at MSRP of close to $50 for a 2WD SuperCrew. That is getting pretty darn close to a F250/350 territory. A buddy of mine just got a 2019 F-250 Lariat 4x4 with the 6.2L pretty loaded out for under $50 this month.
It also appears that the biggest engine you can get in the XLT package is the 5.0L V-8 and you have to be Lariat of above to get the 3.5L EcoBoost.
While I'm sure they will sell some, they're pretty proud of them so they're gonna have to start discounting them if they really want to sell more than a handful
You can get the ecoboost 3.5 all the way down to the XL trim, even with the HDPP.
I've priced it out a few times. ๐
You are correct about the diesel though. No baby diesel work trucks allowed, I guess. Unless dodge still sells the tradesman ecodiesel.
Here is was kills me when I am pricing out tow vehicles:
XL F150 CC 4wd, with eco3.5 and HDPP as only options $44,800
XL F350 CC 4wd SRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $42,200
XL F350 CC 4wd DRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $43,800
All work trucks, no frills. Just set up to tow well. This is why I am excited about the new HD gas engines. I don't need a big diesel for what I tow, and you can get a similar 250/350 class truck for the same or less money vs a half ton.
โFeb-14-2019 04:09 AM
parker.rowe wrote:patperry2766 wrote:
I was playing on the Ford website and here's my take. If I was doing it right, first off you can't get the diesel in anything less than the Lariat package which starts at $46K. Then the diesel option is another $4K.
So without adding another option, your looking at MSRP of close to $50 for a 2WD SuperCrew. That is getting pretty darn close to a F250/350 territory. A buddy of mine just got a 2019 F-250 Lariat 4x4 with the 6.2L pretty loaded out for under $50 this month.
It also appears that the biggest engine you can get in the XLT package is the 5.0L V-8 and you have to be Lariat of above to get the 3.5L EcoBoost.
While I'm sure they will sell some, they're pretty proud of them so they're gonna have to start discounting them if they really want to sell more than a handful
You can get the ecoboost 3.5 all the way down to the XL trim, even with the HDPP.
I've priced it out a few times. ๐
You are correct about the diesel though. No baby diesel work trucks allowed, I guess. Unless dodge still sells the tradesman ecodiesel.
Here is was kills me when I am pricing out tow vehicles:
XL F150 CC 4wd, with eco3.5 and HDPP as only options $44,800
XL F350 CC 4wd SRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $42,200
XL F350 CC 4wd DRW, 6.2 gas and 4.30 gears as only options $43,800
All work trucks, no frills. Just set up to tow well. This is why I am excited about the new HD gas engines. I don't need a big diesel for what I tow, and you can get a similar 250/350 class truck for the same or less money vs a half ton.
โFeb-14-2019 03:49 AM
patperry2766 wrote:
I was playing on the Ford website and here's my take. If I was doing it right, first off you can't get the diesel in anything less than the Lariat package which starts at $46K. Then the diesel option is another $4K.
So without adding another option, your looking at MSRP of close to $50 for a 2WD SuperCrew. That is getting pretty darn close to a F250/350 territory. A buddy of mine just got a 2019 F-250 Lariat 4x4 with the 6.2L pretty loaded out for under $50 this month.
It also appears that the biggest engine you can get in the XLT package is the 5.0L V-8 and you have to be Lariat of above to get the 3.5L EcoBoost.
While I'm sure they will sell some, they're pretty proud of them so they're gonna have to start discounting them if they really want to sell more than a handful
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