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spud1957

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Posted: 02/24/19 05:56am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Lynnmor wrote:

jlhartline wrote:

I have a VIN. That came through pretty quickly after the order. With the upgraded trailer package, my understanding is that the rear axel is the same as a 350 although geared differently. There are also springs added very similar to the 350 when you add the option I did.


I think that you have it backwards, at one time the rears were the same design and geared the same. Current rears are a different manufacturer but still geared the same. I don't know why the change but they both hold up well.

You need to get the numbers because an F250 with the right options can be much the same as a F350 SRW. Also, springs can be swapped out and the F250 can be made the same as an F350, but the sticker police would have a hissy here.

Now it does sound like you are pushing the limits with any SRW and might be better off with a dually or a smaller trailer.


No he doesn't have is backwards.

Here is a description of the High Capacity Trailer Tow Option.

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F-250 HIGH-CAPACITY TRAILER TOW PACKAGE1
(F-250 with diesel engine): 3.0" trailer hitch receiver, max.
front springs, upgraded axles and 25,700-lb. GCWR


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I had a 2012, gas, crew Cab, 4x4, F250 and pulled our current 5th wheel (10K pounds dry). Max tow wieght of that one was 12K. This was at the top of the specs for the truck. It struggled on steeper inclines. I switched to a F350 Dually a year ago. Wish I had done it earlier. If you are planning on pulling a 5'r, switch trucks!

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blt2ski wrote:

In Wa St, Assuming you have an 8000 lb empty truck, no passengers etc, you will have to buy a 12,000 lb GVW license/registration. You would be legal to that amount too! So 4000 lbs of payload. Actual weight legal would be 10-11K lbs per axel, Assuming a 10-12" wide tire.

I'm sure the motor etc is up to a 12-15K trailer. WIth a 7000 RA, 5-6000 FA, you should be fine from a legal standpoint pulling the large toyhauler.

Marty


I find this to be bad advice from a Moderator!
Stating that OP can put 10-11K lbs on an axle, assuming a 10-12" wide tire. Unless that tire is on a 19.5" rim you will not find a tire with 5,000# to 5,500# capacity.
Seeing how Ford only rates their SRW F350 to 11,500#, the combination OP is looking at will likely put the TV over that much weight likely do to tires.
Discussing exceeding manufactures GVWR and/or axle rating, requires a full discussion of wheels and tires and their capacities.

The OP is a new member encouraging him to start out over manufacture GVWR, and possibly over rear GAWR, wheel, and tire ratings I don't understand at all.


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I believe Marty's comments are based on the Federal Bridge weight laws and the Washington State Registration for tonnage. Wadecutter has made many similar post.

Here is a lot of confusion in regards to how a pickup truck can violate weight and registration requirements.

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A Moderator can be wrong, just like anyone else on the forum. Only difference, they can have the last word, right or wrong. Marty knows the legalities of bridge laws, and the get arounds.

It appears that the OP ordered his new truck, optioned near 350 capability. If this truck won't work, he would be better off with a DRW, or different FW. Once he gets the truck, and takes the time to weigh each axle, he will better realize his best option.

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No he doesn't have is backwards.

Here is a description of the High Capacity Trailer Tow Option.

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F-250 HIGH-CAPACITY TRAILER TOW PACKAGE1
(F-250 with diesel engine): 3.0" trailer hitch receiver, max.
front springs, upgraded axles and 25,700-lb. GCWR


I just checked, the gearing is the same.





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I'd like to see what a 2019 F250 Limited 6.7L diesel has for payload. I bet it's around 2k. The best source for that info is the "tire and loading information" sticker inside the driver's door. IN the real world, with any decent size 5er, he'll be over GVWR.

I found (via google) an image of the sticker from a 2019 F250 diesel Platinum. Payload was 1790#. His will be similar. Add in passengers, and a 5er hitch, and some misc cargo and you're going to be left with about 1100 - 1200# for pin weight before you max out GVWR. That's just life with a 3/4 ton diesel with a 10k GVWR (which is the max for the class of truck). That's in the "half ton towable" 5er class. Cougar makes a "half ton" series of 5th wheels. Their pin weights are 1300 - 1500#.


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The F250 is still using the Visteon Sterling 10.5” axle rated at 9750 lbs. the F350 is now using Dana axles on both the SRW and DRW.

If I already owned the truck, I would not hesitate to upgrade wheels and suspension components to be able run a 9000 LB rear axle weight. On the other hand, I would not buy this truck knowing I needed upgrades immediately. If possible, change to a truck that can handle 20 percent of gross trailer weight rating plus what ever you plan to carry in the truck.

I was carrying 8000 lbs on my rear axle and weighed about 12,500 lbs GVW and 19,500 lbs GCW with my 2005 F250, so it can be done for extended miles and years safely.


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As noted by some, Bridge Laws give you a min of 500 lbs per inch of tire, and 20K per axel. Manufactures ratings are null and void when it comes to how much you can legally put on an axel. Would it be smart to put 11,000 on the OPs new to him truck. Probably not!
An LEO would get him off the road from a safety standpoint if he was at 11K per axle. IE via lack of brakes. An LEO would do a field test, if he can not pass the field test, he has a red flag on the vehicle. It can not move until the brakes are fixed. Not that he could fix them! This ticket goes against his driving record. An overweight per registration, or bridge laws, does not go against your driving record.
Any of you with duallys, could put 20k on your rear, be legal. Another 10-12k up front.......
12K gvw I would not have an issue running down the road with OPs truck. Been there done that!

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ib516 wrote:

I'd like to see what a 2019 F250 Limited 6.7L diesel has for payload. I bet it's around 2k. The best source for that info is the "tire and loading information" sticker inside the driver's door. IN the real world, with any decent size 5er, he'll be over GVWR.

I found (via google) an image of the sticker from a 2019 F250 diesel Platinum. Payload was 1790#. His will be similar. Add in passengers, and a 5er hitch, and some misc cargo and you're going to be left with about 1100 - 1200# for pin weight before you max out GVWR. That's just life with a 3/4 ton diesel with a 10k GVWR (which is the max for the class of truck). That's in the "half ton towable" 5er class. Cougar makes a "half ton" series of 5th wheels. Their pin weights are 1300 - 1500#.


Payload means jack on a 3/4 ton diesel, that topic has been so beat to death anybody who's been around more than a week should know that. Suggesting a new 3/4 ton diesel can only safely handle a super lightweight FW with those kind of pin weights is laughable.

That said OP might be advised to be thinking about a dually if he's wanting to tow a 40'+ fifth wheel. That's a lot of trailer.


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