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deadticket8

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I camp in National Forest Campgrounds around my home state and with my senior pass I get 1/2 price camping. To my surprise I got a measely 10% discount in the Everglades campground. Huh? It's under a contractor and they set their own rates. I came back from a day of exploring. Since I took my tiny camper I left items on the picnic table and an orange cone in the pullout as instructed. Got home at supper and my spot was occupied. At the checkin booth were 2 other parties that had the same problem. And try to find these darn websites if you try to reserve a site. Very difficult. Then I went up to Ocala National Forest. To enjoy the developed part of the parks we have to pay. These contractors didn't build them but our senior pass is no good there. Whats next? Anyone else run into this situation?

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It happens all over in USFS parks


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Yes it does. And twice the host just shrugged it off. You can call the cops but it has to be a fed, and they're few and far between.

Recent most experience For me I got there early, paid a night and put the tag on the post. Took my rig into the little town to provision and fill a water tank. Get back and a family is sprawled out on my site, they didn't even take my tag down.

Host gave me my check back at least.


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Posted: 03/08/19 06:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

When I had my class c, I would leave an occupied sign on my table and I also put up yellow caution tape across the driveway. If they are going to steal your site, not much you can do about it if they are blatant buttheads. I never had a problem though.


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Had a woman try to squat in our site at Bryce Canyon NP a few years back, after we went for supplies. Luckily 2 of our "neighbors" chased her away after some arguing with her about the status of the site. We also placed our yellow tag on the post, but she didn't care apparently.


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There is no such thing as a US Forest Service park.
There are National Parks and National Forests.
I agree that some contractors should not be in the hospitality business.

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Wow never happened, but if it did I would move to another site if available, If not I would set up on the same site and let the ranger/host settle it. I always say it easier to get along but no a REQUIRMENT....

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Which campground was this?

You've got two different issues. First is the improper discount. Second is the rude neighbors and the lack of response to your complaint.

Concerning the improper discount: WTH! That shouldn't even be legal. How can they get away with that? I'd issue a formal complaint to the park Superintendent (you're talking about the national park, right?). I tried to find out who the Super is, and it's almost as if they are trying to keep it a secret. Last available information: Pedro Ramos).

Concerning the rubes who stole your spot: People misbehave all the time, but again, the Park personnel should be trained and capable of correcting it. That's another one that falls on the Park Superintendent. I'd probably write a second letter to that person complaining about what happened. The last thing that person wants is for an angry camper (you) to take matters into their own hands to deal with bad behavior from another camper.

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"Concerning the improper discount: WTH! That shouldn't even be legal. How can they get away with that? I'd issue a formal complaint to the park Superintendent (you're talking about the national park, right?). I tried to find out who the Super is, and it's almost as if they are trying to keep it a secret. Last available information: Pedro Ramos)."
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I'll bet it was NF or maybe BLM. The Park Service does not use contractors so far as I know. Tho now I think about it they do use them in a few major parks, Yellowstone and Yosemite (which does not include the cg in Yosemite), for example. The NPS must specify in their contracts that the contractor has to accept the passes. I think it was legal because the NF/BLM hand over the operation of the campground to the contractor who pays them a set fee. Without putting in the contract that the contractor accepts the passes. The Feds generally make more money than if they ran the place themselves. The contractor handles campground fees and takes care of maintenance and upgrades to the CG.

There is nothing new about this, it's been going on for a long time in Ocala NF.

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Privatizing anything rarely goes better for the consumer. Write to the Dept. of Interior and register a complaint.


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