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troubledwaters

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Posted: 04/12/19 12:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

time2roll wrote:

I love it. Aluminum looks to be obsolete.

Next will be the full exterior body panels.
And you thought aluminum was expensive.

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Posted: 04/12/19 12:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There are good applications for plastic....helmets and boats are a few...

But, in context...ask how many times have you loaded up your boat with fertilizer, dirt, 1 inch gravel, and the biggie...cobble stones ?

Brings back a funny from decades ago...at the local garden supply...

A guy in front if me was pestering the owner for a better price on cobblestones...he didn't get any discount...

Out back, again behind this jerk

Owner cane out to handle this job himself

Front loader with a side tilt bucket...he raised it to it's max height and then dumped it all...

Thought the poop head guy was going to bust a neck vein yelling at him...

At my turn...smiled and said wished it could have gone higher...owner said...me too...

Pickups will see lots of abuse and plastic beds will not hold up...IMHO...


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We own a 2018 Toyota Tacoma. It has a plastic bed. It is slick and things slide easy. A rubber mat at $89 takes care of that. People who have installed a pipe rack and not tied to the frame are seeing deformities.

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BenK wrote:

Front loader with a side tilt bucket...he raised it to it's max height and then dumped it all...

Thought the poop head guy was going to bust a neck vein yelling at him...
If the customer had carbon fiber the joke would be back on the owner dumping the materials.


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8TzXnlTok

Figures...certain types of folks (poop heads)would sue that garden supply...even aluminum would be better than plastic pickup beads

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BenK wrote:


Note, that helmets are a one time use thing....a pickup bed is NOT


A pickup bed doesn't have to protect a persons's head either. That's why the helmet is one time use.

BenK wrote:


But, it is a personal choice and hope they know/understand the attributes vs metal...not just the bragging rights or cool factor


GM certainly knows. Buyers may not. I think this is a great idea and a good application of carbon fiber material. The real question is will buyers be willing to pay for it?


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Why not build one out of the premium carbon fiber, Graphene?

If you believe the hype, a sheet made from Graphene only a single atom thick is strong enough to support the weight of an elephant or small car..


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BenK wrote:

There are good applications for plastic....helmets and boats are a few...

But, in context...ask how many times have you loaded up your boat with fertilizer, dirt, 1 inch gravel, and the biggie...cobble stones ?



No but I do carry anchors, anchor chains, scuba tanks and the boat does get beached some. As with most salt water boats it is made to be driven standing up in heavy seas so that you don't compress your spine when slamming into waves. It does get banked around some.

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My anchor, chain, scuba tanks, compressor, etc are all tied down against a stress distribution matt between them and the plastic boat. Also don’t drop my stuff into the boat, ever. Know and understand that plastic will not last nor designed for that kind of use

Even soft and lighter things like ice chest, food box, fishing tackle box, survival box, etc are all tied down

Never beached mine, but partners did and there was always a yearly chore to clean that spot, reapply gel-coat, etc. One of the last straws was when discovered algae growing all around where they beached it. Bubblies underneath the gel coat said only a matter of time before it had to be ground down and repaired

Last straw was their installation of two hugmongo outboards. IIRC, +300 HP each and knew that the transom was not designed for that amount of power. So sold out my part of the ownership

The point is that plastic is very good to GREAT in the right applications. IMHO, a pickup bed is not one of them...by a large measure

Graphene is cool stuff. Was VERY expensive, until some Chinese college kids discovered a much lower cost method to produce, but its use is still experimental at this time. Plus Graphene will need to be layered and current best is poly of some sort. Then that epoxy will become the weak link...as it is with both glass and carbon fiber

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I just read an article and so far as I know Graphene is not being commercially used anywhere. Indeed they are looking at Borophene which may be easier to mass produce.

Seems to me if I was habitually beaching a boat I'd bond a sheet of thin SS sheet to that area of the bow.


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