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soren

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Regarding any one RVer, who tells you to avoid any part of AK. or the Yukon, as a particular road is hell on earth. I've done the trip from PA. to AK. four times, so far. 99+% of other travelers I've met are in tune with the reality of where they are, and how and why being in some of the most amazing places on earth, means that roads are far from perfect. However,every so often you end up having interesting conversation with a fellow traveler that has simply become unglued, when dealing with the stress of driving their rig (which they are OCD about to the point of it being unhealthy) in that environment, They just can't deal with the possibility of it becoming damaged, stone chipped, or even filthy.

I was heading north in Prince George, early in the year, and met a guy who was heading south in a class A. This guy had made it another half day north, and lost it. He abandoned his Alaska trip, since he couldn't imagine another hour of gravel roads, or following a pilot car through another rough construction zone. Fact is, he never really started his journey north.

Another year I was south bound filthy and tired from dealing with **** roads. I stopped at border city for the night, and spent until ten PM repairing my fridge. As I went to bed, I noticed that a rig was STILL at the free rig wash, having been busy washing a stunning Class A with a matching Jeep GC for a few hours. I got up at 2 AM to pee, and they were still detailing the rig. That couple should of never left the states,lol.

Bottom line, to quote an old cowboy I worked for, "some guys would whine if you hung em with a gold rope". IOW, there is a small demographic in the Alaska bound crowd that will tell you that any and every road is the road from hell, and will destroy your rig.

Have a GREAT trip, the TOW is magical.

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After I hit the "post" button, I got an error notice that the system was down for maintenance. When the page loaded it double posted. First for me?

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soren wrote:

Regarding any one RVer, who tells you to avoid any part of AK. or the Yukon, as a particular road is hell on earth. I've done the trip from PA. to AK. four times, so far. 99+% of other travelers I've met are in tune with the reality of where they are, and how and why being in some of the most amazing places on earth, means that roads are far from perfect. However,every so often you end up having interesting conversation with a fellow traveler that has simply become unglued, when dealing with the stress of driving their rig (which they are OCD about to the point of it being unhealthy) in that environment, They just can't deal with the possibility of it becoming damaged, stone chipped, or even filthy.

I was heading north in Prince George, early in the year, and met a guy who was heading south in a class A. This guy had made it another half day north, and lost it. He abandoned his Alaska trip, since he couldn't imagine another hour of gravel roads, or following a pilot car through another rough construction zone. Fact is, he never really started his journey north.

Another year I was south bound filthy and tired from dealing with **** roads. I stopped at border city for the night, and spent until ten PM repairing my fridge. As I went to bed, I noticed that a rig was STILL at the free rig wash, having been busy washing a stunning Class A with a matching Jeep GC for a few hours. I got up at 2 AM to pee, and they were still detailing the rig. That couple should of never left the states,lol.

Bottom line, to quote an old cowboy I worked for, "some guys would whine if you hung em with a gold rope". IOW, there is a small demographic in the Alaska bound crowd that will tell you that any and every road is the road from hell, and will destroy your rig.

Have a GREAT trip, the TOW is magical.


If there was a "LIKE" button, it would have saved some space, but, from a more-or-less lifelong Alaskan with 20+ trips on the Alcan perspective, the above is absolutely spot on. The incredible scenery comes with a few corollary conditions, one of which is that the roads don't match equivalent roads "outside".

...but the roads are what they are and they allow folks to (relatively) easily access some areas that are pretty spectacular. Given the terrain conditions, the weather, and the fact that the REAL state animal is the road grader (in both summer and winter plumage [emoticon] , dings, scratches, and chipped glass are somewhat to be expected.


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Thanks to all your comments. Dawson city and TOW through Chicken is a definite go.

I'm probably the opposite of OCD. I can wash my truck when I get home. We have general goals but hope to keep all options open. We're leaving upstate NY on Thursday and our only hard goal is to get to Denali in 25 days. We've got 5 days at Teklanika and the 4 days at Riley Creek. After that we'll head towards Anchorage and the Kenai then south toward Juneau before heading back east towards Montana.

Can't wait to get started!

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Posted: 05/30/19 11:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Suspect I'm interpreting the words wrong but if "south towards Juneau" means going to Juneau itself, that involves a ferry ride or a park somewhere and fly into Juneau.....

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PA12DRVR wrote:

Suspect I'm interpreting the words wrong but if "south towards Juneau" means going to Juneau itself, that involves a ferry ride or a park somewhere and fly into Juneau.....


AHa, I'll have to look into that. I have no need to go to Juneau but my daughter is thinking about flying into Anchorage to hook up with us and possibly flying out of Juneau. Any ideas or suggestions?

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Ideally, in my not-really-that-humble opinion, one should take a separate trip (not even necessarily an "RV" trip) to "do" Southeast AK. Take the Alaska Marine Highway ("ferry') from Bellingham or Vancouver or ??? up North, i.e. to Juneau, then fly back or something similar.

My view is that combining a road-based tour of Southcentral (i.e. Anchorage) and Interior (i.e. Fairbanks) with visits to SE Alaska (which is mostly accessible via air and water) creates difficult (which means $$$) logistics issues....certainly do-able, but makes for a long and time-inefficient trip.

If the daughter is interested in seeing Juneau (or Sitka, or Ketchikan, or Petersburg, or ...), a suggestion might be for her to fly there after the joint trip with y'all then she could spend a day or two doing the local tours then fly home.

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You mentioned Juneau and one way to see it as well as some fantastic scenery is to take the fast ferry (passengers only and not connected with the state of Alaska ferry system) out of either Skagway or Haines. It is a day trip with a bus trip from the ferry terminal into Juneau and the Mendenhall Glacier. We really enjoyed seeing the sights around this part of Alaska, seeing whales along the way to Juneau, seeing bears fishing near Haines, and like I said, fantastic scenery. One can take a camper on the Alaska Ferry between Skagway & Haines, it's only about a 20 mile trip. The highway into Skagway and then the highway between Haines and Haines Junction offered scenery well worth seeing, awesome in my thinking. www.alaskafjordlines.com

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I have made the TOW trip 3 time in a motorhome, always with a tow. If I am not too old, and healthy enough, will make it again next year.

My opinion on people that give advise on road conditions:

1] Three drivers, driving the same rig configuration, driving the same road, with a 15 minute separation between vehicles. Each are ask what they though of the road condition.

2 ] First one said it was the best road he has driven in years.

3] The second said it was OK but there were a few bad bumps, rough in a few places, and the road was too narrow.

4] The third one said it was the worst roads he had ever driven on in his life.

My point. If you don't know the driving history of the driver you are listening to, you have no point of reference to determine how good or bad a road is.

Tens of thousands of vehicles are driven over the roads in this section of Canada and Alaska each year. They are not that bad.

My observation, and none of you know me, if you have driven the highways in Louisiana, I don't find any roads in Canada or Alaska to be any worse than those.


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Forgot to mention the ChickenStock Music festival in Chicken Alaska. It is 14 and 15 Jun and has great country and bluegrass music. We have been twice and really enjoyed it both times.

Also took a drive to Eagle, Alaska. We took a picnic lunch and stopped off in the mountains. It was a great drive to Eagle.

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