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Posted: 06/16/19 03:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Semis will only have their tires patched on the inside and no patches at all allowed on steer axle tires.
Too high a load and too much pressure for those plugs. I've used them and have kit with two tools and plugs that mushroom inside sealing there and in the hole but hven't used it in years. Won't do anything but inside patch on hp tires on our AMG.
If the hole is near the edge of the thread or in the sidewall no patching of any kind works. Too much flexing.
One reason to carry road hazard insurance on tires.

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Short Story: Repoted to Wal-Mart Auto for a new tire. Ask the kid several times "how much for a new tire"

HE's going on about why they patch instead of plug (Truly I would only use a plug for emergency and then only on a car tire. on my 110 PSI RV tires.. NO WAY)

Finally I showed him WHY I ask about a new tire and he replied "YOU NEED A NEW TIRE!" (Well why do you think I've been asking how much for a new tire?)

Plugging can damage the cord and at 100+_ PSI a plug can ... unplug.

But a patch does not additional damage and can not blow out the hole

But then I've never had a nail hole type failure of an RV tire.. Truck tires (F-350 Custom) yes but they were patched. not plugged as well.. Once the tire guy finally got it off the truck that is (I'd put it on and well his big and I mean BIG impact wrench was not up to removal... I used the wrench FORD provided. that's all folks).

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I appreciate all the responses. The reason I asked the question is because a couple of days ago, while camping, I noticed a screw in my right rear 5er tire. I took it off and went to the only tire repair shop within a 45 minute drive. (which would have been down the mountain and back up) They only did plugs, as they did not have the equipment to remove a tire from its rim. The guy that plugged it said the hole went straight through and was clean and easy to plug. I wasn't sure what that meant till reading these posts. Anyway, when we got home, I had that tire taken off, the spare replaced with a new one,(spare was 5 years old or so) and now the plugged tire is being used as the spare. Before ok'ing the plug, I called my tire dealer, who has been in local business 50+ years, and is well respected locally, who said the plug would be fine. It was my choice to trade the tire for a spare. Anyway, thanks for all your very helpful responses. If it ever happens again, I'll have more information to base my decision on. You've all been very helpful.

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salem wrote:

I appreciate all the responses. The reason I asked the question is because a couple of days ago, while camping, I noticed a screw in my right rear 5er tire. I took it off and went to the only tire repair shop within a 45 minute drive. (which would have been down the mountain and back up) They only did plugs, as they did not have the equipment to remove a tire from its rim. The guy that plugged it said the hole went straight through and was clean and easy to plug. I wasn't sure what that meant till reading these posts. Anyway, when we got home, I had that tire taken off, the spare replaced with a new one,(spare was 5 years old or so) and now the plugged tire is being used as the spare. Before ok'ing the plug, I called my tire dealer, who has been in local business 50+ years, and is well respected locally, who said the plug would be fine. It was my choice to trade the tire for a spare. Anyway, thanks for all your very helpful responses. If it ever happens again, I'll have more information to base my decision on. You've all been very helpful.


Just take the plugged tire to Discount Tire and they will install a proper plug patch for you for free.

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NRALIFR wrote:

^ I can’t find any verification that tire plugging is “illegal” anywhere. There are rules, guidelines, best practices, and there may be certain industries and businesses that have outright banned it. But, illegal? As I said, I can’t find any evidence that is the case anywhere.

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Like you, I cant be bothered to look it up. But 4 tire stores in my state have all told me the same thing that I posted.

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CFerguson wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:

^ I can’t find any verification that tire plugging is “illegal” anywhere. There are rules, guidelines, best practices, and there may be certain industries and businesses that have outright banned it. But, illegal? As I said, I can’t find any evidence that is the case anywhere.

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Like you, I cant be bothered to look it up. But 4 tire stores in my state have all told me the same thing that I posted.


You know how some people on the net go apesnot crazy when they hear a RV or TV might be a little overweight? OMG, you will be sued, lawyers take everything. (is there a hair on fire icon?)
Well there has been enough issues with tire plugs that a shop's insurance company might say "No!"

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Grit dog wrote:

CapriRacer wrote:

I'm the guy who ruins the statistics. I've had 2 plugs fail out of 4.


And for the record, you’re the guy who claims to know more about tires than the Michelin man himself.


Yup! I did it as an experiment. I didn't do them myself, and I kept track of their success.

Which is why I think of plugs as a temporary repairs.


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CFerguson wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:

^ I can’t find any verification that tire plugging is “illegal” anywhere. There are rules, guidelines, best practices, and there may be certain industries and businesses that have outright banned it. But, illegal? As I said, I can’t find any evidence that is the case anywhere.

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Like you, I cant be bothered to look it up. But 4 tire stores in my state have all told me the same thing that I posted.


I did try a search at, leginfo.ca.gov, because all encompassing statements drive me nuts and I cannot find and legislature regarding repairing by plug or patch.

I did find the following;
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As someone is sure to notice, this is a pretty old answer to the question and is just opinion at this point, however, it is a common sense explanation of why there may be a lack of Vehicle Codes regarding repairing tires.


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Posted: 06/17/19 10:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yeah, like I said, I personally just replace tires when I have a problem. Steering and braking are 2 areas I will not compromise.

But I have no problem plugging a tire- did it many times when I was younger and poorer.

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Posted: 06/17/19 11:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If this discussion is about plugging versus patching a puncture when you're not on an RV trip ... then by all means take the tire to a shop and lhave them repair it the best way.

If this discussion is about plugging versus patching a puncture when in a campsite ... then probably installing - or having installed - your spare tire is best.

If this discussion is about plugging versus patching a puncture when out in the middle of nowhere where installing your spare can't or shouldn't be attempted by yourself in the remote spot where you're at ... then plugging is the way to go if you have a good enough compressor along and the power to run it.

I carry along in the RV a spare and the equipment to change it, a couple of truckers grade tire-inflation repair canisters, a truckers grade plugging kit, and a full pressure 120V compressor with a generator to power it.


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