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pdxcamper

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Posted: 06/18/19 05:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am close to purchasing a 2020 Keystone Cougar bunk house (29BHSWE) and will be pulling it with a 2018 Ford Expedition Limited Max. Tow capacity of 9000lbs. Weight of trailer is 6,810 dry and GVWR 8800.

Has tow package and class IV hitch.

Thoughts? For my TV no other options as I have 4 kids. Appreciate feedback.

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Within towing specifications but toooooo close for me. What is the TV’s payload?


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Posted: 06/18/19 07:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sounds like you'll be at or over your limits. 6 humans, plus gear, hitch. You'll likely be around 8500# ready to camp on the trailer. Do your math and remember kids have a funny way of growing,

As far as "no other TV options" we camped with a family of 6. They pulled with a CC picked with front bench. They even crossed the country that way so it can be done. A properly optioned 3/4 ton gas pickup would offer both more towing capacity, more payload and a longer wheelbase. All those thing will make for a better towing (safer) experience. Not what your original question was but sharing another family's experience that is the same size as yours.


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Usually the cargo carrying capacity of the tow vehicle is the killer. My Tundra was well within the CVW of the trailer, but with only 1,387 in cargo capacity, the truck I was alway a few hundred over every time we towed.


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You're going to be over your capactiy some. Be sure you pack lightly, especially no water in the tanks. Your camper is 800# more than mine and I know I would not want to go with a bigger TT.


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Posted: 06/18/19 08:00pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

And no water in the tanks means passing up beautiful camping opportunities.

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Sounds like you're in the market for a 3/4 ton Suburban.

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It is simply not a good idea to be over, but tow with what you have and see how it goes. Once you’re in the wind, or a semi passing you, you’ll know. Once you have to go through a mountain pass with steep upgrades and downgrades your mind will be made up. Your not so far over it’s dangerous as long as you give yourself some room and time. For me it took several thousand miles of varied terrain and I knew.

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trailer_newbe wrote:

Usually the cargo carrying capacity of the tow vehicle is the killer. My Tundra was well within the CVW of the trailer, but with only 1,387 in cargo capacity, the truck I was alway a few hundred over every time we towed.


The Expedition Max has pretty good capacity, even the nicely optioned one I saw at the auto show had 1700+ pounds, but that's probably not enough for a family of 6 and such a heavy trailer. Over 7k pounds is either max half ton or 3/4 ton territory when you run the numbers. Trailer at 8k pounds and 13% tongue weight is 1,100 pounds after you add weight distribution, 4 kids at 80 pounds each is 320 which leaves <300 for Dad, Mom, and everything else in the tow. The other problem is going to be rear axle capacity, with 1,100 on the receiver and a full passenger compartment you'll probably be well over but it's hard to know without actually doing a CAT scale.


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Posted: 06/18/19 08:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That will be abut 8k loaded for a long weekend with 1000-1100 pounds of TW. Verify your receiver limit supports that. Add weight of your family to TW and verify your Expy has enough payload per driver's door Tire and Loading sticker.


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