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Posted: 07/03/19 06:16am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What WDH are you using? I agree that adding front weight is not the real solution. I'll bet that future models of this trailer have the axles relocated.


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Posted: 07/11/19 12:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looking at a picture of the camper, the wheels look like they are in the center of the camper. Who designed this thing to be a toy hauler? If your's has the rear door behind the wheels that I See in the pictures, I don't see how they can move the axles back any further.

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Here’s a picture of the trailer and the WDH. The ruler represents the end of the garage space. As you can see the axles are at the very rear. As stated earlier, Forest River advised that they were going to move the axle but realized that was not an option. So instead they added 125 lbs to the tongue. I have heard from a few locals as well as a few of you on this forum who addressed concerns with the bandaid fix. I appreciate all the feedback. I don’t think I will be settling for this “fix”.

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Posted: 07/11/19 05:05pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Also, once loaded you can see how low the back end is. This resulted in the following:

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Posted: 07/11/19 05:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wow. How did the stabilizer jack tweak so badly?


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dedmiston wrote:

Wow. How did the stabilizer jack tweak so badly?


Only about 3-4” off the ground when loaded. Anytime the truck was on higher ground than the trailer the rear and would scrape. One slight dip in the road took the metal protectors and then moments later another dip took the jacks.

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Your pictures leave a lot unanswered. It is clear that you are loosing weight on your steer axle, and need hitch adjustment or heavier spring bars, maybe both. Is the trailer level when loaded and hooked up? If it is and the rear is that low, you are going to have problems, and need to look into having your axles flipped, or I hate to say this should of bought a trailer that was better equipped/set up. I think that trailer is inadequate for that heavy of load and according to your figures you have already exceeded the GVWR.

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When toy haulers were first introduced, a lot of companies jumped in to the craze by just modifying a travel trailer with a rear door. I thought these models were gone and frame specific toy hauler models were now the norm. It appears your model is based off a travel trailer frame which is why you have so much carrying any amount of weight in the back. I don't have any simple solutions for you, but this observation.

Extending the tongue length and adding weight to it could solve the problem. if you load the tongue up with two 30# propane bottles and four 6VDC golf kart batteries, that may be enough. Like suggested in another post, having them upgrade the axles, suspension and wheels to the next higher rating would negate the extra weight being carried from taking away cargo capacity. With the suspension swap can also come a lift so the tail does not drag.


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Spyingeye wrote:

dedmiston wrote:

Wow. How did the stabilizer jack tweak so badly?


Only about 3-4” off the ground when loaded. Anytime the truck was on higher ground than the trailer the rear and would scrape. One slight dip in the road took the metal protectors and then moments later another dip took the jacks.


Yikes. That's a pretty blatant design flaw.

How long since you took delivery? This really sounds like a rare case for a buy-back.

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**Update**

I spoke with Pat Stratton with FR again today to check the status. Pat told me that my unit had been returned to the dealership on the 1st of July. I told him I was unaware of this and no one had called to let me know. I told him I was concerned about the weight issue now that they have added 150 lbs to the tongue and inquired about a buy back. His reply was “Sir unit was returned to dealership 7/1. As for trading we would assist 1500.00 towards but since unit did fall within proper percentage we only tried to accommodate.”

Note - the dry percentage was 17%, loaded was 9%. I don’t see how that falls within the proper percentage.

Since this email, I have called the dealership and asked about my RV to which they stated they don’t know anything about it being returned or it’s whereabouts. This gets better and better

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