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Kayteg1

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Posted: 06/25/19 12:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The glue from other side is not going to work most of the time.
Typical delamination is fiberglass separating from backing plywood, so adding glue to back of the plywood will not do anything.
Than you need to inspect if that is the case. I guess that whole fillon, with backing plywood coming off the frame is possible too, but that is not delamination.
Such a case would be camper coming apart for me.





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Looks good from here! I wouldn't fck with it.
Or I guess glue it up, make sure you compress the glue. Worst case it doesn't stick and you have to screw it.


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Posted: 06/26/19 01:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

….that enormous one piece nose/undercab/bulkhead "cap" doesn't look to me like FRP / chopped strand (looking at the product obliquely, in your photos)….it could be a thermoset molded piece, lighter than polyester chop strand FRP.....but I could be wrong.

….when (and if) you follow the manufacturer's suggestion, and cut a hole from under the mattress area, rent a micro-inspection camera (like a sea-snake or similar), and have a look at just what is under/inside that sagging "cap" gap, and try and ascertain if moisture may be getting in there.

If the back of that molded cap has any delaminated organic material bonded to the backside, any additional bonding you spray in that inspection port may just delaminate again without additional/further measures. You may need to fasten that C-channel along the undercab framing after you apply any adhesive, as insurance against future failure.


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I thought the fiberglass nose was glued directly to the aluminum frame. It was done that way for the walls for sure. bighatnohorse had posted some pictures from the factory back in '08 (https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/22030250) but they were linked to his old forum server.

Rich, if you still have these photos it may help a bunch:

20081016182818_front_cap_mold.jpg
20081016183131_frontcap_install.jpg
2008102281843_front_cap3.jpg

They were in http://www.eaglecapowners.com/campfire/upload/Admin-Rich.

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wnjj wrote:

I thought the fiberglass nose was glued directly to the aluminum frame. (https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/22030250) but they were linked to his old forum server.

Rich, if you still have these photos it may help a bunch:

20081016182818_front_cap_mold.jpg
20081016183131_frontcap_install.jpg
2008102281843_front_cap3.jpg

They were in http://www.eaglecapowners.com/campfire/upload/Admin-Rich.


For sure glued directly to the frame, I visited the La Grand factory in 2010 and witnessed this first hand...

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Posted: 06/27/19 07:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

wnjj wrote:

I thought the fiberglass nose was glued directly to the aluminum frame. It was done that way for the walls for sure. bighatnohorse had posted some pictures from the factory back in '08 (https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/22030250) but they were linked to his old forum server.

Rich, if you still have these photos it may help a bunch:

20081016182818_front_cap_mold.jpg
20081016183131_frontcap_install.jpg
2008102281843_front_cap3.jpg

They were in http://www.eaglecapowners.com/campfire/upload/Admin-Rich.

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The exterior Fiberglass walls were vacuum bonded directly to the frame, no Luan used for a backing, however, the front cap was glued to Luan that was applied to the nose. Therefore if the is any kind of leak up there it will delaminate due to the Luan swelling and then drying out. Not sure why they were built like this, should have used Azdel instead of Luan. Azdel doesn't swell or rot when wet, has better insulation value, and does well with many adhesives.

Just my 2 cents here, but I will never again buy any camper or 5th wheel that uses Luan for an exterior backing. Lance and Cirrus use Adzel for backing and Arctic Fox uses luan. Not sure what the newer Eagle Caps use or Host as their websites don't say.


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The Old Eagle Cap owners website had some pictures of a 1050 being built with a picture of the nose prior to the cap being glued on. Plenty of luan behind that cap. That 1050 was built around the same time as mine in late 2008, not sure how Adventure RV built them a couple years later.

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Glacier D wrote:

The Old Eagle Cap owners website had some pictures of a 1050 being built with a picture of the nose prior to the cap being glued on. Plenty of luan behind that cap. That 1050 was built around the same time as mine in late 2008, not sure how Adventure RV built them a couple years later.

I remember some wood to fill the radius near the top and bottom corners but thought the rest was aluminum frame with foam panels between. It would be nice to find those pictures again.

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Sounds like your not far from ALP. Did Brad give you an option to bring it to factory and they could look at it and maybe fix it for you?

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