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ppine

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Posted: 06/26/19 03:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What works in Florida and Iowa does not work in the Rocky Mountains.
Get a real truck if you want to tow heavy things.
That means a 3/4 or 1 ton and a diesel is best.

* This post was edited 06/27/19 08:36am by ppine *

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While you can order a 1/2 ton with the payload capacity to carry a 5ers pin weight, you still have 1/2 ton brakes, axle and suspension. You are much better off going on up to a 3/4 ton truck to begin with.

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troubledwaters wrote:

(Except I would invest in a more capable transmission cooler).


I called a Ford Dealership, a different one from the one I am looking at this truck at, they told me that any after market equipment added to the vehicle would void the warranty. It would also not increase towing capacity.

If I wanted to look at a travel trailer what is the max size I should look at? Weight wise dry weight or Gross Weight? RV dealer websites are also confusing when they list weights of RVs. You never know if it is the dry weight or gross weight.

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Weights listed in the brochure or on a web site are grossly inaccurate. Dry weight is usually nothing loaded, including battery and propane tanks. Since your calculating capacities, most people will say to take the gross weight of a TT and multiply it by 13% to calculate tongue weight. This gives you some wiggle room because your most likely not going to load it to it's full capacity. So if you took a TT with a 6000 lb gross weight * 13%, it gives you 780 tongue weight. Subtract that from your TV's payload - you mentioned 1772, and you have 992 lbs left over for everything else.

I was under the impression that you already bought the truck.


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rollindowntheroad wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

(Except I would invest in a more capable transmission cooler).


I called a Ford Dealership, a different one from the one I am looking at this truck at, they told me that any after market equipment added to the vehicle would void the warranty. It would also not increase towing capacity.
Buy the right truck to begin with. Look at work trucks. Talk to the dealer fleet rep, tell him/her what you want to do with the truck. Tell him/her payload above all else. The more fancy options the truck has the less the payload will be. Mine is a base model with very few options. The dealer has the ability to search the whole state and beyond for the right truck. Ordering what you want is always an option.


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rollindowntheroad wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

(Except I would invest in a more capable transmission cooler).


I called a Ford Dealership, a different one from the one I am looking at this truck at, they told me that any after market equipment added to the vehicle would void the warranty. It would also not increase towing capacity.

If I wanted to look at a travel trailer what is the max size I should look at? Weight wise dry weight or Gross Weight? RV dealer websites are also confusing when they list weights of RVs. You never know if it is the dry weight or gross weight.
Two things I want to point out here. After looking into it more, Ford doesn't upgrade the transmission cooler for the 10 speed transmission with the tow packages. So forget that.

Secondly, the dealer flat out lied to you about voiding the warranty. It's against the law to void the warranty by adding after market equipment. Think about it, if you put a different air intake system on it and the water pump goes out, they don't have to cover it? Or the electric windows quit working? Flat out Lie.

By the way, the point wasn't to increase the tow capacity, the point was to keep from frying the transmission. But that must be a non-issue with the 10 spd transmission.

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If you haven’t bought the truck yet why are you so set on an F150?


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rollindowntheroad wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

(Except I would invest in a more capable transmission cooler).


I called a Ford Dealership, a different one from the one I am looking at this truck at, they told me that any after market equipment added to the vehicle would void the warranty. It would also not increase towing capacity.

If I wanted to look at a travel trailer what is the max size I should look at? Weight wise dry weight or Gross Weight? RV dealer websites are also confusing when they list weights of RVs. You never know if it is the dry weight or gross weight.


My advice is to stop looking at trucks and concentrate on the TT you want. It's not easy to always see what the UVW or GVWR is because some dealers misprint that info.
After you find a bunch of TT's you're interested in simply go to those brands websites and look up the specs of each. No they won't be exactly as what they will be when they roll off the assembly line but they'll be close enough to help you make a decision.

UVW=Unloaded Vehicle Weight.
GVWR=Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
The bigger the difference between the UVW and GVWR the more payload you'll be able to carry.

After you've decided on a TT, then start shopping for a truck that can carry the tongue weight as well as all the people and cargo you'll be putting in the truck.

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Bionic Man wrote:

If you haven’t bought the truck yet why are you so set on an F150?

Because those are in my price range. I don't want to spend $65,000 + on a truck.

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I went to Towingplanner.com. They have a way you can calculate the Maximum Loaded Trailer weight that you can tow using the payload. I had all the other numbers they asked. According to that I can tow a Maximum weight of 7,600 to 11,400 lbs.

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