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seaeagle2

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Posted: 06/30/19 10:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The HDPP F150 is also called, "the unicorn"....


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Posted: 07/01/19 02:44am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

seaeagle2 wrote:

The HDPP F150 is also called, "the unicorn"....
Yes, rare and pricey.
This guy is the first I have seen that claims different.

Ever since they became "available" posters on this site have stated that they just are not on dealers lots. Everyone that wants one, orders it.



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Huntindog wrote:

seaeagle2 wrote:

The HDPP F150 is also called, "the unicorn"....
Yes, rare and pricey.
This guy is the first I have seen that claims different.

Ever since they became "available" posters on this site have stated that they just are not on dealers lots. Everyone that wants one, orders it.


And you're most likely to pay dearly whereas going with the more traditional F250/350 deals do exist with some units in stock and the capabilites will most likely be greater than these nearly non existant "UNICORNS"[emoticon][emoticon]

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OP:

You came to the absolute worst place to ask about the towing ability of any vehicle... You'd be about as well served listening to the salesman that sold you the truck. See, in the TT community this topic is as toxic and produces such dogmatic knee jerk reactions possible that you will only end up utterly confused and that's _if_ the thread remains on the issue you originally raised rather than meandering off into other people's "experiences" and "perceptions" as this one already has.

Here's how to approach the issue... Look at everything you can find about calculating what your vehicle can tow/stop/control on the road. Do not look at the dry weight of a proposed TT as shipped from the factory - add at least 1000lb to the dry weight. Take into account the location of the FW tank which will affect it's towability, (in the front puts a lot of weight on the tongue which risks exceeding your payload and exceeds the 12-15% of TT weight on the ball. In the back it does the opposites. [Common Sense] If you are close in either aspect then don't travel long distances with a full FW tank... [/Common Sense].

Get a tongue weight scale and fill tanks and adjust loading yourself so you know exactly what the tongue weight is and what would be best for your setup.

Do all your research and due diligence.

Once you've worked all this out you'll know what dry weight plus 1000-1500lbs the TT is that is in the ball park for your F-150.

Now, here's the secret!!! Never, ever, come back here and tell anyone what you tow and what the tow vehicle is because you'll only start another bun fight between the "holier than thou purists" and the "Laissez Faire bringers of carnage"...

Hope this helps... ;-)

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Gdetrailer wrote:

A $60K F150 with 2500 lbs capacity...
The dealer must of made a mistake when he sold me a mine, over a $20,000.00 mistake.
Huntindog wrote:

Yes, rare and pricey.
This guy is the first I have seen that claims different.

Ever since they became "available" posters on this site have stated that they just are not on dealers lots. Everyone that wants one, orders it.

LarryJM wrote:

And you're most likely to pay dearly whereas going with the more traditional F250/350 deals do exist with some units in stock and the capabilites will most likely be greater than these nearly non existant "UNICORNS"

Larry
The F150 with the HDPP is cheaper than the F250 in the same trim. But you don't have to take my word for it, just go to the Ford website and verify for yourself. Then while you're at it, also check out the available incentives for both. You'll never touch an F250 for the price of the F150 with the HDPP. And as an extra added bonus you get the 3.5 Ecoboost with the 10 speed transmission.

* This post was edited 07/01/19 05:48am by troubledwaters *

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rickhise wrote:

So when you talk to the TT dealer. What are the numbers you listen for when understanding what your vehicle will tow.

(Price later)

Go back a couple of posts and read the “clicky”.
It has all the info in it about all the weights and how to figure out what you can safely tow with what you have. You will find that payload is going to be your limiting factor.
Pay no attention to the 150 vs 250 sideshow.


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rickhise wrote:

So when you talk to the TT dealer. What are the numbers you listen for when understanding what your vehicle will tow.

(Price later)

A TT dealer just wants to sell you a trailer. He has no idea what your trucks GVWR and more importantly its RAWR is.
1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks can have some very high trailer tow ratings however its for all type of trailer ...not just a TT or 5th wheel camp trailers.
Some trailers like flatdecks or stock trailers can be loaded to attain any hitch weight to fit the trucks RAWR. You can't do that with a trailer like a TT or 5th wheel camping trailer.

'course the tow vehicles GVWR...RAWR....engine size.....gear ratio will determine the trailer weight and size.


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Huntindog wrote:

seaeagle2 wrote:

The HDPP F150 is also called, "the unicorn"....
Yes, rare and pricey.
This guy is the first I have seen that claims different.

Ever since they became "available" posters on this site have stated that they just are not on dealers lots. Everyone that wants one, orders it.

Up til 2014, you could look for used ones by looking for dumbo mirrors, then counting the lug nuts looking for 7 lugs, or before they locked ETIS, for newer than 2014, you could look for dumbo mirrors and run the VIN to check for HDPP option. I probably found 3 or 4 used ones that way, but ended up going with a used F250.

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post the numbers off the door jam and we will tell you. staying around 5k is likely a good starting place.


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GVWR 7350 pounds
Rear GAWR 3850 lbs

2014 XLT F150 4/4 with 4 doors 2 full size doors. 6 ft bed
I also have Vin #

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