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Dutch_12078

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Posted: 07/11/19 06:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Maybe we can wind this thread up by just saying that the previously mentioned insurance agent had it right. The only thing seeing someone's directional blinking tells you with any certainty is that the bulb isn't burned out...


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Posted: 07/11/19 07:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Some of the comments are funny.
The left turn blinkers were never meant for the person following to jump out and pass without first looking for themselves.
The driver in front who flashed his/her left blinkers leaves that decision up to the person wanting to pass.
And we even used the left blinker to encourage a tailgater to get off my bumper go on around.

As I said earlier I did it years back when I was on the road 24/7.... and had it done to me thankfully. It was considered common courtesy.

In fact when even today if I'm with other vehicles on a trip I flash the left blinker to those that are following me its ok to pass when we come upon the typical old farmer going to town at 40 mph on a 65 mph hiway. Most are smart enough to use their brain to make that safe pass decision. Others ??


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JRscooby wrote:


What really happened? I told the judge that I was driving slow, between 15 and 40, so I could, in communication with my escort, keep all 30 of my wheels away from the edges of pavement, on curves. At over 100 ft long, I often needed the oncoming lane on the curves. 3 bridges in the section of road where posted 30 ton 15MPH. The high temps had the pavement soft, lower speeds make less side pressure, road damage. When Barney put on the beacon, I made sure he could see past my 12 ft wide, moved to the right so a couple of feet of load over the side of road, and stopped. Yes your honor, I refused to pull off the pavement. I was not sure that my 120,000 lbs would not cause damage, and suspect that the dirt shoulder, that was only a few feet wide, would hold to where I could drive off. I had all the permits to show the judge, but the LEO was not smart enough to ask for them.
Like I say, it is up to the driver to determine how fast to drive, up to the max legal speed.


If we get to wildly change the scenario, you were driving an oversize load without a permit...that would have required a police escort, so now it's a 5 figure ticket.


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So you're comparing a 30 wheel, 120,000 lbs, wide loaded truck to an RV and you think standing before the judge is going to work out the same way for an RV. smh. (You do remember this forum is about RV's don't you?)


What I am stating is it is the driver that must judge for himself how fast to drive. Now the judge will be more likely to decide a RV or driver is unsafe to be on the road, or trust officer's knowledge.


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JRscooby wrote:


What really happened? I told the judge that I was driving slow, between 15 and 40, so I could, in communication with my escort, keep all 30 of my wheels away from the edges of pavement, on curves. At over 100 ft long, I often needed the oncoming lane on the curves. 3 bridges in the section of road where posted 30 ton 15MPH. The high temps had the pavement soft, lower speeds make less side pressure, road damage. When Barney put on the beacon, I made sure he could see past my 12 ft wide, moved to the right so a couple of feet of load over the side of road, and stopped. Yes your honor, I refused to pull off the pavement. I was not sure that my 120,000 lbs would not cause damage, and suspect that the dirt shoulder, that was only a few feet wide, would hold to where I could drive off. I had all the permits to show the judge, but the LEO was not smart enough to ask for them.
Like I say, it is up to the driver to determine how fast to drive, up to the max legal speed.


If we get to wildly change the scenario, you were driving an oversize load without a permit...that would have required a police escort, so now it's a 5 figure ticket.


When I first started hauling for hire, and paid by pound, a old man told me "Put on what you want to haul, but if you want to go fat don't ever put on more than you can step with."
Hard to hide a load over dimension, always get the permit. For weight, if had not been legal, I would of not worried as much about pavement damage, likely any load I would gamble with I would go fast enough not to attract attention
Over a lifetime I would bet 80% of loads I hauled where over legal gross. And I got way with it at least 99% of the time. The biggest overload that I had to pay fine on was 29,000 lbs.

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Posted: 07/12/19 06:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JIMNLIN wrote:

Some of the comments are funny.
The left turn blinkers were never meant for the person following to jump out and pass without first looking for themselves.
The driver in front who flashed his/her left blinkers leaves that decision up to the person wanting to pass.
And we even used the left blinker to encourage a tailgater to get off my bumper go on around.

As I said earlier I did it years back when I was on the road 24/7.... and had it done to me thankfully. It was considered common courtesy.

In fact when even today if I'm with other vehicles on a trip I flash the left blinker to those that are following me its ok to pass when we come upon the typical old farmer going to town at 40 mph on a 65 mph hiway. Most are smart enough to use their brain to make that safe pass decision. Others ??
When I first started driving and people were using the left turn signal like described, it was to indicate it was safe to go around when you couldn't actually see into the distance. If you could see around the vehicle why would you need to have someone signal it was safe to pass? The left turn signal basically said "It's safe to come around because there's no traffic coming", usually used when there was a slight rise or curve you couldn't see past because of the vehicle in front of you. You relied on the person to be telling the truth, a small leap of faith, so to speak.

And why would they need you to tell them it was safe to pass that "typical old farmer going to town at 40 mph on a 65 mph hiway" unless they couldn't see past you? Basically you're telling them it's all clear and no traffic coming so they can go around both you and the old farmer. Where does the brain usage come into effect? They either believe you or they don't. I used to, now I don't.


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valhalla360 wrote:

Corkey05 wrote:

Does anyone remember when the speed limit signs on Hwy's also included "Minimum" speed?

And I have a couple of tickets to show from going below the posted Low Limit. The Minimum began to disappear soon after the Interstate system became our main roadways.


Not only do I remember it...it's still there on most freeways.

It has been changed in many states to bump it up to 55mph and even if not posted, many vehicle codes still include it.
Good to know - I just haven't seen it in a LONG time.


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Posted: 07/12/19 09:01am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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And why would they need you to tell them it was safe to pass that "typical old farmer going to town at 40 mph on a 65 mph hiway" unless they couldn't see past you? Basically you're telling them it's all clear and no traffic coming so they can go around both you and the old farmer. Where does the brain usage come into effect? They either believe you or they don't. I used to, now I don't.

Good grief..... where is your reading comprehension. Your blathering(s) just answered your brain usage question.
If you were a experienced hauler you would know of many reasons it takes a brain to know how to safely pass another vehicle when some one your following gives you a signal.

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Posted: 07/12/19 09:50am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Two left blinks? I would hesitate to do any passing as I would always assume the vehicle is still thinking of changing lanes or pulling out to pass. Another minute or two and I might make a cautious move. The effect would be to slow my progress. Not going to press it and I don't mind going extra slow for an extended period vs making a risky pass.


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And why would they need you to tell them it was safe to pass that "typical old farmer going to town at 40 mph on a 65 mph hiway" unless they couldn't see past you? Basically you're telling them it's all clear and no traffic coming so they can go around both you and the old farmer. Where does the brain usage come into effect? They either believe you or they don't. I used to, now I don't.

Good grief..... where is your reading comprehension. Your blathering(s) just answered your brain usage question.
If you were a experienced hauler you would know of many reasons it takes a brain to know how to safely pass another vehicle when some one your following gives you a signal.
My reading comprehension is excellent. Maybe better than yours, since you didn't answer my question of why I would need a signal to pass when I can clearly see around you and know it is clear to pass. A simple answer please with no insulting, and unnecessary, verbiage.

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My reading comprehension is excellent. Maybe better than yours, since you didn't answer my question of why I would need a signal to pass when I can clearly see around you and know it is clear to pass. A simple answer please with no insulting, and unnecessary, verbiage.

Apparently your comprehension isn't as good as you seem to think. I could give several scenarios but you seem to be the type that just wants to argue.

If you don't feel the need to observe or comprehend the driver your following out front signals/intent thats fine.

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