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Tvov

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Posted: 07/17/19 05:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

According to the specs, that is a 24.5 foot trailer - I am assuming not including hitch length? I would get a weight distributing with sway control hitch.

As already asked, what is he towing with?

For that size trailer, being not that big, a simple WD hitch with friction bar sway control would work fine if he is towing with a capable truck. Smaller tow vehicle, go with a fancier hitch. Or if you want just buy the nicer one right away - you won't go wrong with it.

Installing a hitch may seem intimidating, but if you are handy with tools it is not that hard. In the world of RV's, "dealer installed" is not something to brag about, and you will find from these forums something to avoid.

My hitch was installed by the dealer... it was years later when I realized with some simple adjustments I could have a much better towing feel, and I should have installed the hitch myself at the beginning.

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Posted: 07/17/19 06:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Neither...the truck should come first. A complicated hitch is a bandaid for not enough tow vehicle. I pull heavy loads with nothing but a good ball/hitch and enough tongue weight.


This post is my opinion (free advice). It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.

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Posted: 07/17/19 06:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Weight_Distribution.aspx

They have a wide range of choices and good videos. Everybody has a favorite hitch, mine is the Reese DC





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Tvov wrote:

According to the specs, that is a 24.5 foot trailer - I am assuming not including hitch length? I would get a weight distributing with sway control hitch.

As already asked, what is he towing with?

For that size trailer, being not that big, a simple WD hitch with friction bar sway control would work fine if he is towing with a capable truck. Smaller tow vehicle, go with a fancier hitch. Or if you want just buy the nicer one right away - you won't go wrong with it.

Installing a hitch may seem intimidating, but if you are handy with tools it is not that hard. In the world of RV's, "dealer installed" is not something to brag about, and you will find from these forums something to avoid.

My hitch was installed by the dealer... it was years later when I realized with some simple adjustments I could have a much better towing feel, and I should have installed the hitch myself at the beginning.

Live and learn!


This was my thought as well; if you need a fancy hitch to pull 7,000 pounds, you probably don't have enough tow vehicle to begin with. I have pulled more than that on a weight carrying hitch, although I prefer WD for anything over 5k pounds.

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Grit dog wrote:

Missing the other half of the equation....what's he towing it with.
That's a little trailer for a full size rig, hook it up and drag it home, may/likely not need anything at all.
If towing with a mid size truck/SUV then yeah, need a wdh fo sho.


He has a RAM but it's a V6 so is also truck shopping for a Hemi. Initially was going with a lighter camper with the present truck. Now he's going to test drive a Laramie with a tow capacity of 9,050 this weekend. He has two others on the list but all have sufficient axle ratio and engine, tow package, etc. I would rather him at least have 7k capacity, and at the lowest 6k. He will be going cross country and staying in it for up to 13 weeks. Not weekend camping or a vacation. He will be the only passenger.


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Posted: 07/17/19 08:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It looks to me like that trailer will probably have a tongue weight around 700lbs when loaded for use. I think it would be an excellent candidate for an Andersen hitch.
This hitch is a new design (in past several years) and works well with light tongue weight trailers. It also does not put a lot of downward force on the smaller A frame trailers like a traditional WD hitch does and has anti-sway built in.

Before purchasing a hitch, check with the dealer on what size ball is required for that trailer. Most travel trailers take a 2 5/16" ball but many of the smaller ones only use a 2" ball.
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BarneyS wrote:

It looks to me like that trailer will probably have a tongue weight around 700lbs when loaded for use. I think it would be an excellent candidate for an Andersen hitch.
This hitch is a new design (in past several years) and works well with light tongue weight trailers. It also does not put a lot of downward force on the smaller A frame trailers like a traditional WD hitch does and has anti-sway built in.

Before purchasing a hitch, check with the dealer on what size ball is required for that trailer. Most travel trailers take a 2 5/16" ball but many of the smaller ones only use a 2" ball.
Barney


Barney, if he ends up purchasing the Laramie, with a 9,095 tow capacity, Hemi, heavy duty cooling, class IV hitch receiver, tow package, etc., it's possible he may not need the weight distribution part, correct? Just the sway bars and hitch?

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As others may chime in, the tow vehicles' (TV) cargo capacity is a key consideration. He's got to allow for the load on and in the tow vehicle which includes the weight of the Weight Distributing Hitch (WDH) and trailer tongue weight.
I use a Husky Centerline TS WDH that has the no chain setup and has sway control built in the design. My dealer tech did a great job on setting it up and I bought it USED from the dealer. I downloaded it's manual and verified it was set up correctly, it was. I bought a new TV that only had a +3/4" difference in Hitch height but of course had a significant change in suspension, 2008 Explorer to 2019 F150, both with towing package. I connected my WDH to my TT, drove to a flat parking lot and took measurements connected, disconnected, with and without WDH spring bars. All were within tolerances. The manual is very clear on the set up. I have full confidence in installing this WDH on any vehicle or trailer.


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Barney, if he ends up purchasing the Laramie, with a 9,095 tow capacity, Hemi, heavy duty cooling, class IV hitch receiver, tow package, etc., it's possible he may not need the weight distribution part, correct? Just the sway bars and hitch?

It is quite possible he could get away without one BUT that 700lbs will still unload the front axle by the same amount no matter if it is a 1500 or a 2500. The effect may be different but the unloading will be the same. He would probably enjoy the tow much better by using a simple WD hitch like the one I mentioned.

If he were to just purchase a sway bar then the hookup would take almost as long as it would using the whole WD part and he would have to mount the sway bar brackets on his tongue and hitch head. Might as well use a regular WD hitch head if you are going to do that. If you are going to use the WD hitch head, you might as well go ahead and use the spring bars also because it will give you a better, safer ride than without. It only takes a minute or so to hook them up so might as well use them.

I can see no good reason to not use WD when towing a travel trailer. Yes, there are lots of reasons but not any GOOD ones in my opinion. For those of you that like to jump on comments, I am not talking about extreme rigs - just the average good ol travel trailer/truck combinations.
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I will not, from experience agree with Barney's comment, 700 lbs will remove the same weight off the FA, no matter the rig! I changed out a set of 6400 lb springs, for 8400 on an older SW 3500 I had, amount removed from FA dropped 100+ lbs with higher capacity springs! This was with 1500 lbs of HW mind you!
650-700 lbs of HW on same truck with 6400 lb springs, removed a whopping 60-80 lbs. So the formula to get amount removed is not linear as some say. Rear spring capacity, soft or firmer springs will effect how much is removed from front axle. The more you squat, the more weight is removed. Hence why trucks are usually asset high.

Not sure if a dual cam is still around, I like the one I have for my TT long since ad. I will agree, an all in one is better.

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