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rwess

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Look at the Bluebird Wanderlodges. They were high end coaches when they discontinued the RV business around 2007. I recently saw a 2000 Wanderlodge LX tandem axle for sale on RV trader for sale by second owner. Approximately 27,000 miles always garaged, second owner who has owned it since 2006. I believe it had a Detroit Diesel 400hp engine. This was a top of the line motor home in 2000. I think the asking price was $77,000. I read an article a couple of years ago that stated if anyone was looking for a used diesel pusher they should always consider Wanderlodges I also saw some 2005-2006 LXI's for 120,000-160,000 range, all with under 100,000 miles.
I would say a Detroit Diesel under 100,000 miles is not even broken in yet. No engine regens or DEF. Probably have minimum pollution control.


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It’s not the engine or trans that give you issues.

It’s the turbo, turbo plumbing, turbo boost sensor, fan belts, tensioner, compressors,
multiple radiators,etc.

In other words, everything around it.

I see semis on the side of the road often.


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Posted: 07/20/19 08:57am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I really would stay away from 08 and later EPA compliant coaches.

Our local heavy truck shop says they are a real problem. their quote was too many sensors to go bad.


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Thanks for all the responses gang. I think my fear of the unknown is probably unfounded. Going to test drive a few DP's and higher end gassers in the coming months and start whittling down. Probably attend a few shows. I expect this will be a lot longer process than buying the first few rv's we've had. Much more thought about true livability and a floorplan that we love with some sort of work space. I always liked the Damon 37kt floorplan but I don't think any DP from a higher end brand has that sort of layout with a truly dedicated living room. Winnie, Newmar and Tiffin will probably be where I start. I am sure I'll have more questions to come.


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Have you looked at a Fleetwood Bounder 35K? 1.5 bath, elec fireplace and tv across from couch. Residential French door fridge. Washer/dryer. Outside tv.

2016-2017 had an LX package that gives you chrome mirrors and luggage handles, powered electric reel, king bed, 7000 Watt genset under coach lighting.

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Took a 35K out for test drive from lamesa in Florida. Was not impressed at all. Rattles plastic fake wood above slide cracked and falling off.
imho much better value in a older high end DP.


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Tom/Barb wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:

mike brez wrote:

Get This One and call it a day.


yeah that ! beautiful !

but a little long in the tooth. (138k miles).
On a Detroit 138K is almost broke in.


At 138k it has had plenty of chance to be misused too.

Those engines that get a million miles are engines in truck fleets, under continual maintenance schedules where the care is much better than 7000k miles pre year and oil changes every 15,000.
given, that the coach will most likely be scrapped with a good engine in it.

doing the routine daily maintenance on a diesel vs a gas, is very small.and oil change is simply an oil change. fuel filters are about the same.
I doubt there is a reader here that would attempt a transmission change or an engine overhaul in either type.
So the OMG the diesel maintenance boogyman is an empty threat.
I never said a word about maintenance and I do know a little about class 8 diesels. I am a certified diesel mechanic and was a lead mechanic for Saunders Leasing for several years. Whats your diesel background?


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Bird Freak wrote:

Whats your diesel background?
40 years an owner driver. now own a diesel coach for 10 years.

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Tom/Barb wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

Whats your diesel background?
40 years an owner driver. now own a diesel coach for 10 years.
Good deal! I was a owner operator also for a while. I would hate to do it now.

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I'd like to make this point.
the day to day maintenance on a diesel vs a gas coach isn't going to be that much different.
the newer the gas the more special electronic dynastic equipment you'll need. diesel not so much until you get into the new emissions era.
So bottom line, you are not going to be doing any heavy maintenance on either. Oil and filters is about as far as the average owner will go.

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