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T18skyguy

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Posted: 07/21/19 07:27pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mike brez wrote:

Not sure if anyone remembers a member on here
Jim Scoggins he was a long time rver and was ready to pull out for a trip with his wife.
Last minute he went to look at something under his Prevost and it came down killing him.

A little off topic but related. Some of you might remember the book "How to keep your Volkswagon Alive for complete idiots." The author advised if you remove a wheel for any work, always slide it under the body in case the jack slips. A couple people wrote in and said that maneuver saved their lives when the jack let go.


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Posted: 07/21/19 09:25pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Air bags and leveling jacks may be a way to get it up in the air, but blocks and heavy weight jack stands are the way to keep it there.
Better to take it to a truck repair sop and get them to install the fitting and line.


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Posted: 07/22/19 03:55am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It was a joke but my bad... I need to remember that without the Safety Police the gene pool would be self-cleansing.

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Posted: 07/22/19 07:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The only thing I can say is when we were considering our first DP, friends who owned them said '"Do not drive a DP unless you are ready to sign the papers".

They were right. [emoticon]


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Posted: 07/22/19 08:09am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you haven't been a "car guy" (really a mouthful) all your life, you really don't know what you're getting into. ON all my vehicles, including my Dutch Star DP, I've done all my maintenance and upkeep. Just learning about it, like you are starting to do, takes a lot of time out of your life. I often wonder "what if" I had chosen a different path. IOW you can overthink it. Honestly, I would have to know you personally before I would give you advice on this subject.


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Posted: 07/22/19 08:24am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would bet that when a coach sets a week on the level jacks with out moving, it will set there 15 minutes more while Mike slides under there and changes a brake canister fitting.

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Posted: 07/23/19 08:14am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tom/Barb wrote:

I would bet that when a coach sets a week on the level jacks with out moving, it will set there 15 minutes more while Mike slides under there and changes a brake canister fitting.


No.... Bad assumption. When you go under you TOUCH stuff. Either a hose, a pipe, a valve, you move a hydraulic line out of the way to see better, next thing you know, coach comes down.

Do a search for "Rolls Royce Phanthom kills technician". A poor guy had a Rolls on a lift but did not lock it correctly. When he went under and starter looking at a bolt in the exhaust, the car came down.
It is a really good example on how even when you believe you are safe but you missed a minor safety backup, you could be in trouble.


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Posted: 07/23/19 09:43am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

map40 wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:

I would bet that when a coach sets a week on the level jacks with out moving, it will set there 15 minutes more while Mike slides under there and changes a brake canister fitting.


No.... Bad assumption. When you go under you TOUCH stuff. Either a hose, a pipe, a valve, you move a hydraulic line out of the way to see better, next thing you know, coach comes down.

Do a search for "Rolls Royce Phanthom kills technician". A poor guy had a Rolls on a lift but did not lock it correctly. When he went under and starter looking at a bolt in the exhaust, the car came down.
It is a really good example on how even when you believe you are safe but you missed a minor safety backup, you could be in trouble.


When you do not know what you are doing, you don't belong under there.

But tell me what you could move to cause the jacks to collapse ?
Remember the air ride system is already drained, when you raise the coach. so it has been on the jacks for week. and jacks must be selected up electrically to lower the coach.
Changing a brake line fitting isn't going to do that.
When you don't know the difference between falling off a car lift and a coach on its leveling jacks you shouldn't post.

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Posted: 07/23/19 09:54am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Personally I only have air leveling no jacks. If I did have jacks I would raise up and block. I have pretty shity luck.


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Posted: 07/23/19 10:25am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tom/Barb wrote:


When you do not know what you are doing, you don't belong under there.

But tell me what you could move to cause the jacks to collapse ?
Remember the air ride system is already drained, when you raise the coach. so it has been on the jacks for week. and jacks must be selected up electrically to lower the coach.
Changing a brake line fitting isn't going to do that.
When you don't know the difference between falling off a car lift and a coach on its leveling jacks you shouldn't post.


A hose or fitting failure would drop the jacks in a second.

My real job is industrial sales, and ANYTHING that you're relying on hydraulics to hold absolutely MUST also be mechanically held before any work is started. Failure to do so is grounds for immediate dismissal in every plant I go in.

Now, can we please get this thread back on track.

While safety is always a good subject, this thread is about whether to DP or not to DP.

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