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RoyJ

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Posted: 07/25/19 08:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If the "90" rated ZF 8 speed is similar to the "70" rated on the 1500, it'lol be a night and day difference.

Ram never had a REAL 6 speed, like GM and Ford. Their 1/2 ton used a 4 spd turned pseudo 5 speed to downright falsely claim "6 speed" - it only use 5 ratios unless manually shifted. The HD's 6 speed uses the diesel's ratios, which can also be traced back to the 4 speed 47RE.

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Posted: 07/26/19 06:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That's interesting info on the 6 spd. We know from Vern the ZF is reliable.I love our 8 speed. So yes it should wake up the 6.4.

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Even with the 6 speed, the 6.4 "could" pull better in an Ike type test, if manually shifted and realizing that it doesn't have the perfect gear ratio to hold any speed in any condition (within reason).
That said, the 8HP is nothing short of impressive and while I don't have many miles on our 6.4/8HP, it's track record is well proven and not just in Dodges.


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Posted: 07/29/19 06:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Please keep us updated on your towing results after that crucial break in.

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Posted: 08/01/19 07:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just found out the new numbers from Ford. 475hp.430 ftlb. 10 speed.

6.4l/8spd has real competition in the HD segment.

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hvac wrote:

Just found out the new numbers from Ford. 475hp.430 ftlb. 10 speed.

6.4l/8spd has real competition in the HD segment.


And that flat torque curve starting around 1500rpm's it's already up in the 400ft/lb range...


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hvac wrote:

Just found out the new numbers from Ford. 475hp.430 ftlb. 10 speed.

6.4l/8spd has real competition in the HD segment.

You got the hp and tq mixed up. 430hp/475tq


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02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
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Current: 07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z


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Posted: 08/01/19 03:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I stand corrected.

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VernDiesel wrote:

You are right about the debt. The debt IS increasing out of control and will eventually crush our economy if not brought under control and expansive entitlement programs are allowed to be expanded as many progressives be them dems or reps are working on. Well and presidential hopefuls are hawking for votes from the entitlement benefit seekers.

But Tax cuts have grown our economy so much that net tax revenues are up. Same as happened with JFK & Reagan’s policies. This has been our actual economic experience as opposed to ideologically driven political agenda promotion & theater.

I don’t know about the RV Industry as a whole (it seems up) but both the major RV manufactures we transport for Airstream & Forrest River are up in sales and both are currently building new plants. Though that may partly be due to excessively high taxes in progressive run gov states where snowbirds from WA, OR, CA, NY, NJ etc flee overtaxation and get a 6 month “residence” in conservative run low tax states like AZ & FL. Lol they voted for the free benefits and are now running from the taxation that came from it.

As to boats Fineline that we transport for manufactures of Gladiator ski boats are again up year over year in sales. Fan of you & your posts but makes me question where you are getting your news and or how that news has been crouched or is being presented. As to the 6.4 2500 8 speed short of fuel cost I suspect you will really like it. It’s a solid motor, trans, and many say the optional rear air suspension makes for the best riding 3/4 ton in the market. Though I don’t know what elevation you are talking about towing in & how much that will affect power etc. I know naturally aspirated motors loose power to altitude where as turbo charged motors practically speaking don’t.


Vern, an update. Not good.

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mtofell1 wrote:

It's getting great reviews on the Ram forums. The 8spd tranny sounds like a whole new world compared to the 6spd. Guys are talking about hauling up to 15,000# trailers with no problems. Aside from the terrible 6spd my Ram 2500 is a great truck. The 6.4 Hemi is a beast of an engine that, up to this point, has been somewhat wasted in the HD trucks. The 8spd sounds like a total game changer.


I'm curious what you think is terrible about the 6 speed? I read that often, yet I have no complaints. I have an 18 2500 6.4 4:10 that's a bit over a year old. My travel trailer tows at around 10k lbs and is 37' and I have no complaints about it's towing. Sure it down shifts more than the 2012 diesel I had in the past but overall does a nice job. What is it that you and so many others don't like? Just curious really. I have many years before my next truck so I will have a 6 speed for quite a while, but again just trying to understand the hate for what to me works just fine. Thanks!

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