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twodownzero

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opnspaces wrote:


But I also remember a service writer friend who calculated that paying an half labor (say $50) for a tire rotation every 5,000 miles would cost a set of new tires by 60,000 miles. $50 times 12 services = $600 So it's possibly cheaper to just never rotate the tires and save the money for the replacements.


If you want your tires feathered and riding like **** for the last few years you own them, this sounds like a wonderful way to accomplish that. Find me a person who claims their tires all wear evenly regardless of position and I'll show you a liar.

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Silly me, I thought it might also have something to do with safety


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

My question is why are the fronts wearing faster? Under inflation?


Chances are they have already been rotated. Go by seasons that hot summer heat eats rubber.

I say rotate by tread depth not mileage.

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If you want your tires feathered and riding like **** for the last few years you own them, this sounds like a wonderful way to accomplish that. Find me a person who claims their tires all wear evenly regardless of position and I'll show you a liar.


I inspect my tires, and put them back where I got them. If a tire is wearing unusually I go to truck and find out why. If you just rotate, and something is causing a tire to where, it will wear all the tires. And likely you will not see the problem as soon.
When I was young, I wore rear tires faster. Now, the front wears a little faster than rear. When I need to replace tires, I buy 2 at a time. If I had 4X4 I would act different.

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JRscooby wrote:

twodownzero wrote:



If you want your tires feathered and riding like **** for the last few years you own them, this sounds like a wonderful way to accomplish that. Find me a person who claims their tires all wear evenly regardless of position and I'll show you a liar.


I inspect my tires, and put them back where I got them. If a tire is wearing unusually I go to truck and find out why. If you just rotate, and something is causing a tire to where, it will wear all the tires. And likely you will not see the problem as soon.
When I was young, I wore rear tires faster. Now, the front wears a little faster than rear. When I need to replace tires, I buy 2 at a time. If I had 4X4 I would act different.


Tires just work differently in different positions. If your tires are wearing perfectly flat across the tread without any rotation, they must be some pretty amazing truck tires. I suppose it's possible with a rib tire or something, but it's certainly not likely.

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Quote JRscooby:
I inspect my tires, and put them back where I got them. If a tire is wearing unusually I go to truck and find out why. If you just rotate, and something is causing a tire to where, it will wear all the tires. And likely you will not see the problem as soon.
When I was young, I wore rear tires faster. Now, the front wears a little faster than rear. When I need to replace tires, I buy 2 at a time. If I had 4X4 I would act different.

Tires just work differently in different positions. If your tires are wearing perfectly flat across the tread without any rotation, they must be some pretty amazing truck tires. I suppose it's possible with a rib tire or something, but it's certainly not likely.

I agree with you JRscooby, although I doubt anyone else will. Radial belted tires like to stay where they are first installed and broke in. 2nd, If a vehicle has an alignment or some other type of wear problem, fix the problem, don't just rotate the tires around thinking everything is fine.





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rightlaneonly wrote:

Sounds like a lazy service dept.
I get my vehicles serviced Every 6 months and may only have 2 or 3 thousand miles, they rotate tires every time. Rotating keeps wear even and tread edges from rounding off.


Sounds like your service dept enjoys your business. Rotate every 2-3 thousand miles??
Really?
That's like the dude who changes his trans fluid after every road trip (real person, posted on this forum iirc).

Cripes, I'd have to take my work truck in for a rotation every couple weeks sometimes.....


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OMG..
No radial tires don't "like" to remain where they were installed and "broke in". (WTH is that anyway? Tire break in?)
Tires "like" (if I can pretend they're my friends now and not just.....tires) to be worn evenly if the tires' owner likes minimizing what comes out of their wallet.
And the way to keep them smooth and even is by rotating.

This is probably confusing to those who have no idea how to read tire wear and how it relates to load or position on the vehicle.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

My question is why are the fronts wearing faster? Under inflation?


My fronts have always seemed to wear faster, I am a little surprised at all the people saying rears wear faster. I've always assumed it was a combination of front weight and steering... with the majority of wear caused by steering.

I tow almost daily, but not "heavy" towing... landscape equipment trailers, and our camper, all of which are roughly only half of my trucks rated capacity. My rear tires last noticeably longer than my front.

Especially when I had my 1987 F350 dually dump truck - that truck had limited slip rear end, and an amazing turning radius. The front wheels almost went to 90 degrees it seemed like. Combine limited rear end with front tires almost sideways during slow maneuvers - I would actually leave skid marks on pavement from the front tires with the wheel all the way over, with all 4 rear wheels trying to push the truck straight. I would have to replace the front tires twice as often as the back. And that truck was regularly overloaded.

As to dealers not rotating tires - typical. They offer things like free rotation to get you in the shop, then turn around and claim it is not needed - while charging you for other services. Whatever a dealer says, you probably need the opposite.

Don't mean to sound too negative, but decades of dealing with dealers just confirms all the stereotypes about them.


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It’s simple. They don’t want to rotate then because they aren’t ready to be rotated yet. Unless the fronts are feathering then I would leave them until they are ready.


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