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cattledog04

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Posted: 08/03/19 10:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just curious how many people don't have a sliding hitch with their shortbeds? I never used it on my old truck, and I'm trying to decide to buy another (spending more) for my HD that's on order or just get a non slider. Thoughts?

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Posted: 08/03/19 11:15am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Take it for what it is worth but I have a friend with a short-bed Ram and a sliding hitch that he never used for a number of years. After putting two dimples in his truck (one on each side), he decided it best to learn to use his sliding hitch.

Just 2-cents from a guy with a long-bed Chevy[emoticon]. Happy Camping!


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Posted: 08/03/19 11:20am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If I understand your post, your buying a new HD truck. SO upwards of $40K. A basic hitch will cost 300 a automatic superglide maybe $1K. Can't see risking damage for $700.

Full disclosure: I have a long bed, ironically with a slider.


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Posted: 08/03/19 11:31am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2017 Ram with the 6'4" bed without a sliding hitch. I have a standard B&W Patriot 16K hitch. With that being said, I have a 2019 FR Hemisphere 5th wheel. The nose is very rounded and cut back at the bottom edges of the nose. If it had a more traditional "squarish" nose, or I had the smaller 5'8" bed I would definitely have a sliding hitch. I think manufacturers are rounding the noses on 5th wheels because the short bed trucks are the most popular and they want to maximize sales of their trailers. For some, having to buy an expensive sliding hitch would be a deal breaker. With my set up, I can get to almost 90 degrees if I had to. So far I haven't come close to needing to get to that severe of an angle. The closest the nose has been to the cab of my truck is about 10" away. I think if you want 100% complete peace of mind then get a sliding hitch. If you know ahead of time what the limitations are, you will be fine.

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Posted: 08/03/19 11:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A lot depends on the front end of your fifth wheel: placement of the pin box, width of the fiver, shape/contour of the front cap, etc. We pulled our Reflection with a 6.5' bed CC Sierra using a non-sliding hitch for a littl over 10K miles full-timing without any issues - but the Reflection has a sculpted front cap that reduces the chance of cap-to-cab contact. Some fifth wheels - although they tend to be older ones - also have the pin box farther back than others. RVs like the Solitudes and DRVs are six inches wider than our Reflection, too, which would make a difference.

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Posted: 08/03/19 11:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Depends on the truck brand. GM has the longest C/A (cab to axle) dimension than the Ram or Ford. My son had a '02 2500 chevy short bed....then a '15 2500 chevy short bed and now a '18 2500 chevy short bed with two different 5th wheel trailers and has no need for a sliding hitch.

And as others with short bed trucks said the newer 5ers may have the rounded/notched front corners eliminating the need for a sliding hitch.

Another player is hitch location. You get the max distance by placing the hitch with the pin zero over the trucks rear axle.


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Posted: 08/03/19 02:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My brother has a 2007 Dodge RAM 2500 diesel with 4 door short bed. We installed a gooseneck hitch and the Andersen 5th wheel set-up. He has an offset ball that the Andersen connects to and tows a Grand Design 303RLS I think it's called. Works great. Tows like a dream and backing up is also the best. No problems. I don't think he could do a full 90 degree, but then why would he need to? The Anersen set up is really nice, easy to use and keeps the bed ready for any other truck related need.

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Posted: 08/03/19 02:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A buddy has one of those pinboxes that privets back at the attach point , not at the kingpin/hitch. Works great on his short bed 1/2t ford

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A lot also depends on the 5th wheel. The smaller or mid-profile 5th wheels are generally no problem with the newer trucks. Full-size ones could have problems although as time moves on the manufacturers are making the caps with short bed trucks in mind.

I have a mid-profile with a SB truck and have never needed to slide back during some pretty hairy camping. But I do need to slide back every time I come/go to my steep driveway to keep my 5th from hitting the back corners of my truck.

My main complaint with the slider is the weight.... both against payload and moving the thing in/out of the truck.

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Posted: 08/03/19 06:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What ever you decide I suggest this little test after you get the trailer and hitch.

Find a large open area where you can do a full 360. Have someone walk along side your rig while having steering at full lock and do at least a full 360 while your watchman watches the cab to trailer clearance.

If there is no problem then you know your are safe going into a crowded fuel station etc as long as you do not back up.

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