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zcookiemonstar

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Posted: 08/11/19 12:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I remember when I was a kid people thought we would all have flying cars by now.

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D.E.Bishop wrote:

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Nor do I think he knows any more about the demise of the fossil fueled motor vehicle than I do.


I watch movies and most entertainers (except a few that I wouldn't watch jump out of a tree on to concrete), but I don't care one bit what they think personally. Pro-Athletes are another story - I don't watch sports of any kind EVER and certainly don't care what they think.


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Electrical vehicles very well might be the future. The way I look at it my Diesel should last my lifetime since projected lifespan is 76 years for a male. When I get older it does not make economic sense to replace. The only thing that could sideline my plan is the unavailability of fuel.

I do agree that I don't give a tinker's darn about what overpaid actors and glorified athletes say.

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There is a common problem with prediction of any kind. You take a trend and project it into the future. This is of course not valid, since it ignores innovation. The problem is, how do you predict a new idea?

I am a retired Petroleum Engineer, so I will pick on my old business. We were finding less oil per year, at one point we were finding less oil than we consumed each year. Boom, stretch that trend into the future and we got Peak Oil. We should be in dire straits right now, but we are not. In fact the US, which was a has been, will/is the biggest oil producer on earth again.

How did this happen? People rejected what we had been taught in college, and the conventional wisdom of the time that we could not produce the oil in source rock (shale). Experts ignored this work and continued to teach and preach that it could not be done. Well, who was right?

So good luck predicting the future. Don't forget the power of the human mind, and don't forget that most of Africa and Asia have yet to industrialize. They want a life just like ours, and they will do whatever it takes to get it. My prediction #1.

#2, whatever we predict, it will be different.

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for those of you who claim little/no maintenance cost, have you priced battery replacement yet?
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I have to come clean, my post about Athletes, Media folks and Entertainers was taken from Grant Whipp's Facebook page. Grant was the designer and maker of the Lil Bear Teardrop Trailers. Like most RVers, a really cool person.


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Bumpyroad wrote:

for those of you who claim little/no maintenance cost, have you priced battery replacement yet?
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Good morning Bumpy.

Nope. For two reasons.

1. We never keep our vehicles for more than 6 or 7 years. The battery warranty is good for 8.

2. The batteries are “supposed to be” good for the life of the car or 13 to 14 years. We’ll have to see how that plays out. The first modern mass produced EV was the 2011 Nissan Leaf. The 2011 and 2012 Leafs had horrible degradation problems in constant high heat situations like Phoenix etc. They changed the chemistry in 2013 to improve that. However in less extreme situations the original leafs did ok. The majority of the Leaf taxi fleet in Madrid is still on the road. Tesla’s suffer little degradation even in high heat because of liquid cooling.

Just conjecture but my guess few people will spend the money on replacing batteries. They’ll probably just trade it in and someone with less range requirements will buy it.

Personal experience. We have a first generation Leaf. We haven’t noticed any significant amount of battery degradation. But, other than middle of the summer it doesn’t get that hot here. We’ll be trading it in for something new in the next year or two. Not sure what yet. Probably another hatchback. Maybe the model Y Tesla. Wouldn’t hesitate to get another Leaf though. Rock solid. Never had a bit of maintenance other than washer fluid. Tough little car. Kinda goofy lookin. I’ll miss that in the next one [emoticon]. Whoever gets this one will get a great little commuter.

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colliehauler wrote:

Electrical vehicles very well might be the future. The way I look at it my Diesel should last my lifetime since projected lifespan is 76 years for a male. When I get older it does not make economic sense to replace. The only thing that could sideline my plan is the unavailability of fuel.

I do agree that I don't give a tinker's darn about what overpaid actors and glorified athletes say.

Well dog darn it my Dmax will probably out live me. We’re about the same age but he had better doctors.



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Posted: 08/11/19 08:20am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wow, think of the unemployment[emoticon]


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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Do you see the same?

It is relevant to us with Tesla's plan to release their pick-up with the same towing capabilities as F150 and their soon-to-be-launched semis that I'm sure manufacturers can modify into RVs.

Jay Leno added that currently, there is no more reasons for people to buy mid-range luxury gas-fed cars as its performance is matched by mid-level electric cars and entry-level Tesla and so much economical to run and maintain.


Leno is nothing but a filthy rich dork.


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