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badsix

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pianotuna wrote:

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You have one what? Please do provide a link.

badsix wrote:

check this out before you go and pay 300.00 for a micro-air I have one and it works fine. seller name is applianceandair on eBay
Jay D.

yes I have the heavy duty capacitor he sells plus the soft start that delays the start of the compressor. you should be able to find him by just going to eBay and search sellers with APPLIANCEANDAIR all one word. I tried to post a link off eBay but it won't work may be an eBay thing. http://applianceandair.com/images/sign-0012_01.png
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edekgb wrote:

Yea my first generator - the 2000 watt honda i bought a year ago falls in the serial number series. Something seems wrong although - the 16 to 25 percent loss from altitude is significant.
I was also thinking the cord from one to the other generator could be faulty? The cord from my trailer to generator is fine or at least very unlikely the problem.
Both generators the eu2000i and 2200i companion are both new with less then 10 hours on them.
The trailer is new and the ac seems to work fine. The generators bog down and then hits overload after about 3 to 5 mins after i turn on ac. It may be the generator that the trailer is plugged in to (the companion) that is the only one overloading. I was just thinking about this and will have to watch to see if one or both overload.


something is definetly amiss since it overloads after 15 minutes or so. what I do know is that a single honda 2200 will RUN an dometic 13.5K or coleman MachIII all day long at 7,000ft altitude without overloading. Brother and I have done so. The trick is getting it started, which is easy with the micro air easy start. The easy start reduces starting current, but once started doesn't affect the normal current draw. So 2 honda's shouldn't be any issue. Either there is

1) an issue with the generator(s)
2) they really aren't paralleled, but again one should be able to keep it running
3) you have additional draw.

Now, if your converter is still on, which it WILL be unless you turn OFF the breaker it is on, AND your batteries are drawn down AND you have a good charger (not a WFCO), then you could easily be overloading the generator. A reasonably discharged battery bank and a good 60A or so converter will draw as much or more current than the AC, 12A or so. Then the combo could cause the generators to go into overload after 15 minutes or so.


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Are you sure the electric water heater is off off?
Might be a switch outside under the panel or flip the breaker off.


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troubledwaters wrote:

First of all 2200 + 2000 = 4200 (not 4400). Secondly at that altitude you are losing a lot of power; however, the AC should still run. Also, is that running watts or starting watts? Running watts could be way less and make a difference depending on other loads sucking power away at the same time as you trying to start the AC. Make sure everything else is turned off before you start the AC. Lastly, the start capacitor in the AC could be going bad.


4200 isn't running wattage, it is only peak wattage. I believe the 2000 is 1800 running and 2200 is 2000, so you're down to 3800, and at a mile high, it could be significantly lower.

You might need to look into changing jets out in the carb, I seem to recall my BIL had to swap jets when his Honda wouldn't even start/run at high(er) elevation.


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Hi,

That is an image rather than a link.

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

You have one what? Please do provide a link.

badsix wrote:

check this out before you go and pay 300.00 for a micro-air I have one and it works fine. seller name is applianceandair on eBay
Jay D.

yes I have the heavy duty capacitor he sells plus the soft start that delays the start of the compressor. you should be able to find him by just going to eBay and search sellers with APPLIANCEANDAIR all one word. I tried to post a link off eBay but it won't work may be an eBay thing. http://applianceandair.com/images/sign-0012_01.png
Jay D.



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Regardless of only having 1600/1800 running watts and 5k altitude, 2 - 2000s in parallel will run a 13.5-15k AC with ease.
Have you run it off of a 15-20A circuit at the house? If it blows the breaker, then likely it's the AC unit, because a normal 15A circuit has run both of my older 13.5 AC's.
If it runs fine on a 15A household circuit, then there's something wrong with the generators or the hookup between them.


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Fordlover wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

First of all 2200 + 2000 = 4200 (not 4400). Secondly at that altitude you are losing a lot of power; however, the AC should still run. Also, is that running watts or starting watts? Running watts could be way less and make a difference depending on other loads sucking power away at the same time as you trying to start the AC. Make sure everything else is turned off before you start the AC. Lastly, the start capacitor in the AC could be going bad.


4200 isn't running wattage, it is only peak wattage. I believe the 2000 is 1800 running and 2200 is 2000, so you're down to 3800, and at a mile high, it could be significantly lower.

You might need to look into changing jets out in the carb, I seem to recall my BIL had to swap jets when his Honda wouldn't even start/run at high(er) elevation.


a single 2200 is capable of starting and running a dometic or coleman 13.5K AC unit at 7000ft if an easy start is installed. That is with the factory low altitude jet. my brother and I have both done this many times this last summer and this summer with the honda 2200. the honda 2000 will start the AC but only consistently run it at altitudes less than about 4500 ft.

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

That is an image rather than a link.

badsix wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

You have one what? Please do provide a link.

badsix wrote:

check this out before you go and pay 300.00 for a micro-air I have one and it works fine. seller name is applianceandair on eBay
Jay D.

yes I have the heavy duty capacitor he sells plus the soft start that delays the start of the compressor. you should be able to find him by just going to eBay and search sellers with APPLIANCEANDAIR all one word. I tried to post a link off eBay but it won't work may be an eBay thing. http://applianceandair.com/images/sign-0012_01.png
Jay D.

applianceandair.com site is under construction
Jay D.

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