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pianotuna

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If the OP can live with a rack and enclosure on the rear of the RV, a 3400 watt Champion with remote electric start would be a good choice.


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My thoughts, for what they're worth...

1. I totally agree with the poster that called the Onans "Neanderthals". They =are=, and it still baffles me why they haven't started making inverter-type generators OR that Honda, Yamaha, Champion, etc. haven't started making Onan-style gen-packs.

2. I'd prefer gas over LP as we typically camp well over 5,000', usually around 7,000', and LP just poops out, BUT I do understand the overall convenience of LP. I don't have an issue with storing gas as Sta-Bil is my friend.

3. Not sure if the Onans have a remote start fob, but that would be useful for starting the genny and A/C before stopping to get the rig cooled down for the fur kids. With the slides in and both A/Cs running, bet it'd cool down PDQ.

4. Personally, I'd still favor a mounted portable on a rear rack.

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

No campground where I live sells bulk propane--and few do exchange tanks.

ford truck guy wrote:

Every campground sells LP, and usually at a fair price if you cannot find it elsewhere..


Move south ! !

Only Kidding ! .. I have to say that almost every campground I have been at sells propane refills.. BUT then again, i usually stay on the East Coast and at larger campgrounds...

Come to think of it, there was only 1 place that I stayed at in the last 2 years that I can remember that did not sell it, that was the DE state Park..


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DownTheAvenue wrote:

Dave H M wrote:

A thought for shot stops in the heat with pets. Ours stay in the vehicle/pick up with the air on. Plenty of cold air. I bought one of those high idle things that are marketed for emergency vehicles that plugs into the OBD port. It can be set for whatever rpm you want when you flip the switch for high idle. My gasser runs at 900 - not a problem.

Anyway, a lot of good info on this thread.


This is my recommendation as well. The RV, closed up and in the sun for hours while traveling, will be very hot inside. It will take some time for it to begin to cool down, and before that happens, the animals will be subjected to very high heat.

I would not feel comfortable inside Cracker Barrel eating lunch with my truck engine running to keep A.C going for the dog! Sorry but I do not have that much faith in my fellow man that someone won't drive off with my truck,5th wheel and dog!
However leaving dog inside RV with the AC on is easy with the 5500 lp.
Push the button for the electric, and turn on the AC. No cords, no chains,no gas worries. Far fewer security risk.

Secondly yes the RV can be hot but it starts to cool immedaily. 2 AC's going with slides retracted you feel the cool air immediately.
The animals are not exposed to very high heat. Certainly no worse than getting into a hot car during the summer. My dog is very content in RV with AC on.


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laknox wrote:

My thoughts, for what they're worth...

1. I totally agree with the poster that called the Onans "Neanderthals". They =are=, and it still baffles me why they haven't started making inverter-type generators OR that Honda, Yamaha, Champion, etc. haven't started making Onan-style gen-packs.

2. I'd prefer gas over LP as we typically camp well over 5,000', usually around 7,000', and LP just poops out, BUT I do understand the overall convenience of LP. I don't have an issue with storing gas as Sta-Bil is my friend.

3. Not sure if the Onans have a remote start fob, but that would be useful for starting the genny and A/C before stopping to get the rig cooled down for the fur kids. With the slides in and both A/Cs running, bet it'd cool down PDQ.

4. Personally, I'd still favor a mounted portable on a rear rack.

Lyle

Prior to getting my current rig I had a mounted portable genset on a custom welded platform. It was a very nice set up. That old set up was almost as nice my current built in set up.
However I still had to deal with cas gans, I had to physically plug RV into unit.
it was electric start, but no key fob.
It was a fantastic set up in many ways. However it was not powerful enough to run both AC's. Most portables cannot power 2 AC units. Those large portables that can power to AC's are very heavy.AT some point their weight impacts the convenience factor

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laknox wrote:

My thoughts, for what they're worth...

1. I totally agree with the poster that called the Onans "Neanderthals". They =are=, and it still baffles me why they haven't started making inverter-type generators OR that Honda, Yamaha, Champion, etc. haven't started making Onan-style gen-packs.

2. I'd prefer gas over LP as we typically camp well over 5,000', usually around 7,000', and LP just poops out, BUT I do understand the overall convenience of LP. I don't have an issue with storing gas as Sta-Bil is my friend.

3. Not sure if the Onans have a remote start fob, but that would be useful for starting the genny and A/C before stopping to get the rig cooled down for the fur kids. With the slides in and both A/Cs running, bet it'd cool down PDQ.

4. Personally, I'd still favor a mounted portable on a rear rack.

Lyle


Onan makes inverter style gensets in Diesel.

Honda makes a 6000 watt RV genset. EV6000 I think.

I think Onan dropped their remote but I think Intelletic or others do.

Bumper mounts are loud and not allowed at many venues.


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OK, Onan makes an inverter...in diesel. That means they have the tech, so why not put it in a gas genset? This is my point.

Honda =used= to make a genset, but it appears that it's no longer made.

I've seen a couple bumper mount gensets that were almost silent. They were mounted in enclosures on a rear rack.

Lyle

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I haven't seen an genset that is silent when producing enough electric to run 2 -RV AC units. Yes they may be silent in econo mode recharging batteries but they are not silent when producing max. power.
Onan's are designed to frequently, put out lots of power,for a long time. Fuel efficiency is lower on their list of priorities.

The OP has stated he would like a built because he doesn't want to handle,haul, carry or set up anything.
He wants push button convenience above anything else.
With that in mind an Onan LP is the way to go.

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Lantley wrote:

I haven't seen an genset that is silent when producing enough electric to run 2 -RV AC units. Yes they may be silent in econo mode recharging batteries but they are not silent when producing max. power.
Onan's are designed to frequently, put out lots of power,for a long time. Fuel efficiency is lower on their list of priorities.

The OP has stated he would like a built because he doesn't want to handle,haul, carry or set up anything.
He wants push button convenience above anything else.
With that in mind an Onan LP is the way to go.



I think the OP is well informed now . I agree the Onan LP is great, its simple here ,if you want to run it for hours on end, be prepared to be able to have a convenient propane source or haul a bunch of extra tanks.

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Back in 2017 we were boondocking at the NASCAR race in Richmond and it was HOT ! ! ! We mostly ran 2 AC's ( both 15k), but sometimes dropped to 1, from Friday, till 6:00 AM Monday .. morning.. All in all, we used 5 of the 40# bottles...

There is a Costco about 10 minutes away, we ran there Saturday afternoon and refilled.. I also have an office in Richmond and was able to transport 2 empty 40# bottles via shuttle truck to that office so I did not have to carry them all the way down there...
Like stated, not ideal for long term boondocking, but workable... PERFECT for short term, naps, breaks, ect.....

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