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Grit dog

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Posted: 09/02/19 11:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ahhh, good old campfire stories.....
Told a few myself last night. They just didn't involve the IRS! Lol


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If an “IRS Agent” shows up and starts asking you personal questions, the first thing you should do is get in his face and ask in a semi-menacing voice: “You got any ID?”

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Posted: 09/02/19 11:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JG wrote:

For you folks who full time. We were sitting by the fire with the owner of a RV park. ( We were spending the week.)

He brought up the full timers helps keep the lights on during the winter. He also said the IRS called him & wanted a list of people who were full timers. He told them he had no full timers just people who pay month to month. Someone stopped by & interviewed his full timers & they told him they were not full timers but rented month to month.

So something is up with the government. Be careful out there.


Horse pucky.

Having had dealings with IRS they do NOT call EVER.
Agents WILL make personal contact but only AFTER case has been opened, investigation is on going and they are ready to prosecute.

Great Campfire story...but just that 'A Story'


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westernrvparkowner wrote:

Sorry, but tax evasion is just as much a crime as illegal immigration. Just because you don't like the approach to the enforcement of one law doesn't mean enforcement of all other laws should be suspended. In today's economy a cash business is an anomaly and does raise a giant red flag. The audit you describe would be the best way to catch tax evasion in that type of business.


Nice that you can jump to conclusions about tax cheating and find this type of harassment OK, says all I need to know.





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Social Security called me twice last month telling me my account had been suspended............

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lbrjet wrote:

Don't believe that story for a second. The IRS doesn't make phone calls asking for information.
This is an absolute FACT. The IRS only initiates communications via Certified US mail or in person if you don't answer numerous mail requests. They don't phone you and don't contact you via E-mail.



It sure wasn't the IRS.


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As someone who unfortunately has had a lot of contact with the IRS, I can tell you they have never called or e-mailed me once. Everything is in writing via snail mail.


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A house on wheels raises suspicion of capital gain fraud.

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Lynnmor wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

Sorry, but tax evasion is just as much a crime as illegal immigration. Just because you don't like the approach to the enforcement of one law doesn't mean enforcement of all other laws should be suspended. In today's economy a cash business is an anomaly and does raise a giant red flag. The audit you describe would be the best way to catch tax evasion in that type of business.


Nice that you can jump to conclusions about tax cheating and find this type of harassment OK, says all I need to know.
The IRS and it's software is pretty sophisticated. That software has profiles of most businesses. A restaurant that only accepts cash would be out of the norm. That the business only accepts cash is easily identified since it wouldn't have a 1099 from a credit card processing company. A cash business is always going to be subjected to greater scrutiny. Furthermore, it is almost a sure thing that such a business would be either a sole proprietorship or a subchapter S corp, meaning all the income would be filed under the business owner's personal tax return. Now add onto that the fact the business owner paid cash for an automobile which would require the auto dealer to file Form 8300, for a cash transaction over $10,000. If that business owner's tax return didn't indicate income to support such a cash transaction, you can bet an audit generated entirely by the IRS' software would be a real possibility. It isn't harassment, it is simply following a very clear road map.

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lbrjet wrote:

Don't believe that story for a second. The IRS doesn't make phone calls asking for information.


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Posted: 09/02/19 02:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

westernrvparkowner wrote:

The IRS and it's software is pretty sophisticated. That software has profiles of most businesses. A restaurant that only accepts cash would be out of the norm. That the business only accepts cash is easily identified since it wouldn't have a 1099 from a credit card processing company. A cash business is always going to be subjected to greater scrutiny. Furthermore, it is almost a sure thing that such a business would be either a sole proprietorship or a subchapter S corp, meaning all the income would be filed under the business owner's personal tax return. Now add onto that the fact the business owner paid cash for an automobile which would require the auto dealer to file Form 8300, for a cash transaction over $10,000. If that business owner's tax return didn't indicate income to support such a cash transaction, you can bet an audit generated entirely by the IRS' software would be a real possibility. It isn't harassment, it is simply following a very clear road map.


You are correct about the cash transaction, and I already said that. The business is not a restaurant. The harassment is forcing taxes to be paid on income that was not received. Not every ketchup, coffee creamer, paper cup, etc. equates to a sale.

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