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Posted: 09/08/19 04:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've grown to love the turning radius of my F450 so much, I'm not sure I could go back to an F350 even if I didn't need the extra capacity of the F450. . It's a shame they took that wide track front axle option away from the Max Tow F350 DRW trucks.


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My Ford F250 extended cab short bed had a turning radius of 47.5' with a 141.8" wheelbase

My Ram 5500 crew cab 60" CCA has a turning radius of 49.2' with a 173.4" wheelbase


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I know that 2017 F350 got a horrible turning radials .I don't know why Ford change that.The 2011 F350 was ok.


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Posted: 09/10/19 09:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you want maneuverability, get a sliding hitch so that the kingpin is way behind the axle centerline while backing. Then pick out the truck you want based on other criteria.

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Still trying to figure whether I want a tow beast f450 or just get another crewcab shortbed but diesel powered since I only tow my 15,000 fifthwheel 2-4000 miles a year. Also nervous about Purchasing 2020 with new engine and 10 speed. In a perfect world, I think the 10 speed is the cats ass. I just get nervous about having problems when traveling and I prefer reliability. The down side is 2019 nicely equipped superduty’s are getting scarce around here.

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hedgehog48 wrote:

Still trying to figure whether I want a tow beast f450 or just get another crewcab shortbed but diesel powered since I only tow my 15,000 fifthwheel 2-4000 miles a year. Also nervous about Purchasing 2020 with new engine and 10 speed. In a perfect world, I think the 10 speed is the cats ass. I just get nervous about having problems when traveling and I prefer reliability. The down side is 2019 nicely equipped superduty’s are getting scarce around here.


Based on initial post, this one, I would keep what you have! Unless you have a big was of cash burning a joke in your pocket.
If you towed 20-40,000 miles a year, then changing out to the 450 or a diesel 350 would start to make sense......

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Other than an old Western Star I owned, which turned sharp to the right and barely turned to the left, I can't remember ever being concerned about turning radius of a truck. Is it really that big of a deal to have to slide the gear selector into reverse a few times a year while maneuvering?


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Planning a 2400 mile trip next spring and im Nervous about towing that far with gas, the pain of getting in and out of gas stations, the lousy range, etc. also, my wife keeps giving me **** because I never want to go far with the camper so I figured a better towing experience might make me go further.

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buc1980 wrote:

I know that 2017 F350 got a horrible turning radials .I don't know why Ford change that.The 2011 F350 was ok.


The 2011 F350 could have had the wide-track front axle optioned, which would give it the same turning radius as the F450 pickup that came standard with the wide-track. At some point, Ford stopped allowing the wide-track on the F350.


4x4ord wrote:

Other than an old Western Star I owned, which turned sharp to the right and barely turned to the left, I can't remember ever being concerned about turning radius of a truck. Is it really that big of a deal to have to slide the gear selector into reverse a few times a year while maneuvering?


In a word, yes.

But, that’s because at least for me, it’s more than just a few times a year.

I don’t have towable RV’s, but occasionally tow a utility trailer, and having a more maneuverable truck is also a big help when backing into a spot I can only get 90* to.

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hedgehog48 wrote:

Still trying to figure whether I want a tow beast f450 or just get another crewcab shortbed but diesel powered since I only tow my 15,000 fifthwheel 2-4000 miles a year. Also nervous about Purchasing 2020 with new engine and 10 speed. In a perfect world, I think the 10 speed is the cats ass. I just get nervous about having problems when traveling and I prefer reliability. The down side is 2019 nicely equipped superduty’s are getting scarce around here.


I wouldn't be too skeered of the new 7.3/10 speed combo, but still understand no first year vehicles.
Your original post was based on [email protected] fuel range (is it the range or mileage you don't like? Guessing range since you dont tow much, the mileage hit isn't big. Getting a new short bed gasser will not fix that one bit. Long bed, yes, because you can get the 48gal tank.
And you said the other issue is the truck fells like it's "just enough." Just enough what? Power or ability to handle the load?
Getting a new style srw 350 won't up the ability to handle a load significantly, IMO, still a srw truck. Power? I'm guessing, since you mention swapping to diesel, will obviously be about 100% better with a diesel, but still fuel little tank if you go short bed.

With the infrequent, low mile towing you do, a F450 seems completely overkill, but they are sharp looking rigs!


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